Roma beggars at the door

biko · 30-10-2007 3:16pm #1

Does anyone know how to write "No begging" in Romanian? I live in the CC and get them almost every day now. Ringing like there's a fire and then holding up some fecking note. I just shout "NO!" now but it'd be nice with a sign so they feck off before ringing the door.

SimpleSam06 · 30-10-2007 3:28pm

Daub your doorway in menstrual blood, apparently they have cultural objections to that, lord knows why. You'll also need bottles of water to keep the dogs away from the bloody markings though, and razorwire fencing to stop the knacks stealing your bottles of water. You may as well roof over the whole thing to stop the razorwire from rusting as well, and some spiky nails on top like in the train station to stop birds defecating on the entire affair.

That should about do it.

KTRIC · 30-10-2007 3:32pm

Surely you're getting these are Roma beggars ??

biko · 30-10-2007 4:04pm

Thanks for pointing that out. OP edited

Fey! · 30-10-2007 4:14pm

I just had a mad old guy in the shop ranting about them - I've never seen the guy before, but he was telling me that he wanted to start punching them in the street!

He came in asking me could I see a splinter in his finger that had been there for 6 months, and called me "doctor"; I work in a jewellery shop, and I certainly wouldn't ever take medical advicce from me!!!

ethernet · 30-10-2007 4:17pm

I'm sick of meeting the perky one on Middle Street all the time: "Hello, child. You're very nice". How many dirty looks do I have to give?!

the_syco · 30-10-2007 4:19pm

Try taking their notice, and either burning it, or binning it. Be very offensive and rude, and they don't tend to come back.

biko · 30-10-2007 4:23pm

Apparently their language is not Romanian either but Romani.

Analysis of the Romani language has shown that it is closely related to those spoken in central and northern India, Punjabi in particular.

I'll just get a sign:

Fey! · 30-10-2007 4:53pm

ethernet wrote: »

I'm sick of meeting the perky one on Middle Street all the time: "Hello, child. You're very nice". How many dirty looks do I have to give?!

Isn't that one of the guys collecting for Amnesty/Hanley Centre/Shop St cause-of-the-week???

ScumLord · 30-10-2007 5:01pm

I want to get a note that says " I was just about to ask you the same thing.. :eek: Small world eh.."

JohnCleary · 30-10-2007 5:07pm

I've only ever got one to the door, last XMAS.

A big loud 'Hullo' with some sob fcuking story note. Get a job like the rest of us ye bollix, or at least get off my doorstep

Krieg · 30-10-2007 6:18pm

Get the odd one in Renmore, who are promptly told where to go.
If they were calling everyday, I would seriously put a swastika on the front door and answer the door with shotgun in hand

JIZZLORD · 30-10-2007 6:43pm

do you not have one of them wee hole yokes that you can see who's outside?

biko · 30-10-2007 6:51pm

Nah, I got one of them doors with bathroom glass so I can just see an outline of a persons head.
Besides, I kinda want to print a few so I can give some to the neighbours too.

Robbo · 30-10-2007 7:18pm

biko wrote: »

I'll just get a sign:

That will just tell them that you operate a Tube station called No Begging, on the District and Pikey line.

Lockstep · 30-10-2007 8:12pm

Even worse IMHO is the bloodt students trying to sell me art
If you say no then they insist on showing you "so you can admire it" etc

No, I don't want to pay you for some crappy "modern art" tat

Steyr · 30-10-2007 10:53pm

Fey! wrote: »

Isn't that one of the guys collecting for Hanley Centre???

Scam of the Century...:mad:

altered121 · 30-10-2007 11:26pm

Excellent sign, intend to print a small version and laminate it, to keep in my pocket.. saves on conversation with these imports. must also get one that says "No I don't care if your babies starve and no I don't have money for milk"
also reminds me to thank Govt. for making begging legal as a form of expression.

justfortherecor · 30-10-2007 11:41pm

Sorry, but where is the CC?

biko · 31-10-2007 12:27am

City Centre

ZorbaTehZ · 31-10-2007 9:22am

You're refering to those gypsie types? ****ers make me want to gouge my ears out when I hear them with their accordian/tin-whistle/violin on shop-street.

biko · 07-11-2007 4:02pm

Apparently this means No Begging.

Rughisarastume
Nai voia
Te mangăn

Snarler · 07-11-2007 4:09pm

biko wrote: »

Apparently this means No Begging.

Rughisarastume
Nai voia
Te mangăn

Or the internationally recognised lump hammer to the temple.

07-11-2007 4:09pm

One of them tried coming to my door once, as I was walking in as well. I just turned around, gave them a look that said, "if you come near me I will do mean and nasty things to you" and said, "NO!"

I haven't had any trouble since funnily enough.

Zzippy · 07-11-2007 4:56pm

Deleted User wrote: »

One of them tried coming to my door once, as I was walking in as well. I just turned around, gave them a look that said, "if you come near me I will do mean and nasty things to you" and said, "NO!"

I haven't had any trouble since funnily enough.

Oooh, I bet that was a scary look!

07-11-2007 5:03pm

Galwayguy99 wrote: »

Oooh, I bet that was a scary look!

If looks could kill, it would've wiped out China

bugle · 09-11-2007 11:08am

plain and simple, your just gonna have to act like a complete prick.nothing says i dont liek you like a wet willy IMO, if that doesnt work well then open the door, take a photo (with a flash for effect) that shout threatening remarks, that may freak him out enough.if that doesnt work well then your gonna have to resort to mind games.maybe try dressing like him and doing exactly what he does so he may think he's standing in a mirror.

i dunno im all out of ideas now.

tman · 11-11-2007 9:15pm

One of them woke me up the other day by continually ringing the doorbell for 2 ****ing minutes. Nice to know I'm not the only asshole who has no time for their crap:)

Fozzie Bear · 14-11-2007 5:33pm

Had one of these greasy headed f*ckers today. I live in Oranmore and popped home at 1pm for my dinner. I had barely shut the door when there was a knock. I ignored it at first but he was not for giving up so i went out. He mumbled something and tried to hand me a note. Door was promptly slammed in his face. I watched him then going around the other houses, he had a good look in some windows too which was a bit disturbing. I hope breaking in is not one of their habits too.

Why do these people come here if they can neither speak English and have not got some sort of employment lined up? (Look at the majority of other foreigners like the Polish. They have some grasp of english and usually a job before they travel.) I mean can it be that bad in their home country that going to a foreign one and living like this is an attractive alternate? Knocking on strangers doors with a note......

Bass Cadet · 15-11-2007 5:31pm

Fozzie Bear wrote: »

Had one of these greasy headed f*ckers today. I live in Oranmore and popped home at 1pm for my dinner. I had barely shut the door when there was a knock. I ignored it at first but he was not for giving up so i went out. He mumbled something and tried to hand me a note. Door was promptly slammed in his face. I watched him then going around the other houses, he had a good look in some windows too which was a bit disturbing. I hope breaking in is not one of their habits too.

Why do these people come here if they can neither speak English and have not got some sort of employment lined up? (Look at the majority of other foreigners like the Polish. They have some grasp of english and usually a job before they travel.) I mean can it be that bad in their home country that going to a foreign one and living like this is an attractive alternate? Knocking on strangers doors with a note......

Not too unlike the Irish 'beggars' in the UK, America, Australia in the late 1800's.

Some of the posts on this thread are pathetic. Fair enough, begging on a doorstep and continually ringing a doorbell is too far but I doubt very much these people do it as some kind of amusement intended to harass people. We'd be better off to remember the plight and history of our own people before outrightly condemning any other race or people for begging in a foreign country. I don't give money to beggars as it won't help them in the long run but if one calls to the door, at least try to point them in the right direction to where they can get help like a local charity instead of slamming the door in their face

Lockstep · 15-11-2007 8:15pm

Open the door naked, eating poo out of an ice cream container with "HELP ME" cut into your chest with a razor blade.
Watch their immigrant faces chuckle when you reveal it was a joke.

SimpleSam06 · 16-11-2007 3:24pm

Bass Cadet wrote: »

Fair enough, begging on a doorstep and continually ringing a doorbell is too far

And hey, its apparently illegal now too. Although begging is legal because of some numpty of a Judge, coming to your door is trespassing and can get offenders prosecuted. So feel free to point them in the direction of the squad car bearing down on them.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 16-11-2007 3:35pm

Move out to the country if they annoy you too much. That'll learn 'em!

Sherifu · 19-11-2007 2:34am

Haven't faced any yet on my doorstep yet but having a door slammed on them will be their reward if they show up.

ian_m · 19-11-2007 2:40am

The ones I've encountered smell bad and they are loud. That's enough for me. Where do they think they are?

SimpleSam06 · 19-11-2007 8:01am

ian_m wrote: »

The ones I've encountered smell bad and they are loud.

I didn't know they were letting students into the Roma community these days! :eek: Standards are really slipping...

Bass Cadet · 20-11-2007 11:45am

SimpleSam06 wrote: »

And hey, its apparently illegal now too. Although begging is legal because of some numpty of a Judge, coming to your door is trespassing and can get offenders prosecuted. So feel free to point them in the direction of the squad car bearing down on them.

Why not take out a gun and shoot them and be done with it? Like I said, people would do well to remember our own not too distant history, it wasn't long ago the Irish were looked down upon the very same way that people are talking about 'roma beggars' in this thread. It's history repeating, only now, we're the one's lucky enough to be able to slam a door in someone's face

4zn76tysfajdxp · 20-11-2007 3:13pm

I've never begged anyone for money, in the 1800's or otherwise. And don't give me any of that "our ancestors" crap because my ancestors clearly didn't go begging in America or England if I was born and raised in Ireland. They want money they can get jobs like the rest of us.

Sherifu · 20-11-2007 3:14pm

Bass Cadet wrote: »

Why not take out a gun and shoot them and be done with it? Like I said, people would do well to remember our own not too distant history, it wasn't long ago the Irish were looked down upon the very same way that people are talking about 'roma beggars' in this thread. It's history repeating, only now, we're the one's lucky enough to be able to slam a door in someone's face

And slammed hard it will be

JohnCleary · 20-11-2007 4:00pm

Bass Cadet wrote: »

Why not take out a gun and shoot them and be done with it? Like I said, people would do well to remember our own not too distant history, it wasn't long ago the Irish were looked down upon the very same way that people are talking about 'roma beggars' in this thread. It's history repeating, only now, we're the one's lucky enough to be able to slam a door in someone's face

Sounds good

Bass Cadet · 20-11-2007 5:18pm

Irene Embarrassed Janitor wrote: »

I've never begged anyone for money, in the 1800's or otherwise. And don't give me any of that "our ancestors" crap because my ancestors clearly didn't go begging in America or England if I was born and raised in Ireland. They want money they can get jobs like the rest of us.

You seem so sure...

The fact is, I'm not wrong. As an Irish nation it's pathetic and embarrassing for anyone who considers themselves Irish to have this xenophobic attitude which is prevelant in this thread to immigrants. You're mocking the very same hardship your own people struggled through who I'm sure if they could have worked they would have and eventually prospered throughout the world. If you're big enough to slate immigrants and mock them in this thread, you should be big enough to accept you don't give a flying f*ck about your own people's history

Lockstep · 20-11-2007 5:32pm

Bass Cadet wrote: »

You seem so sure...

The fact is, I'm not wrong. As an Irish nation it's pathetic and embarrassing for anyone who considers themselves Irish to have this xenophobic attitude which is prevelant in this thread to immigrants. You're mocking the very same hardship your own people struggled through who I'm sure if they could have worked they would have and eventually prospered throughout the world. If you're big enough to slate immigrants and mock them in this thread, you should be big enough to accept you don't give a flying f*ck about your own people's history

Pwned

Also, if his Irish ancestors stayed here, chances are they benefited from the money sent back by the relatives of those who went,injecting money into the economy

biko · 20-11-2007 5:36pm

But... dey tauk our jaarbs! An wimmins!

Damn Australians

JohnCleary · 20-11-2007 7:05pm

Bass Cadet - The Irish went to America to WORK, and MAKE money. Those Roma cnuts are breaking into our houses, robbing and begging.

There's a difference ya toolbag

diarmuidh · 20-11-2007 10:42pm

Respecting the Roma here is hard when you hear these examples:

1 how about begging in the middle of a crowd while a coffin was being brought out of a church?
2 how about a 20 year old Roma boy sneaking up behind people praying in an empty church?
3 then saying 2 euro wasnt enough?
4 leaving their elderly women to beg in the cold in front of Tesco Drumcondra, Easons Middle Abbey st
5 leaving their disabled and handicaped compatriots to beg in the street?
6 some saying living on a roundabout in Ballymun was better than living in a Romanian village where most of their community had jobs in an shoe factory...
7 applying for Asylum here before Romania joined the EU-Romania could never be like Darfur or Sierra Leone!

the people mentionned above are the pits but to the honest ones who want to work Welcome!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roma_%28people%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Romania#Ethnic_groups
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decade_of_Roma_Inclusion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roma_minority_in_Romania

ian_m · 21-11-2007 11:05am

I personally know of legitimate people who would like to come here to holiday and get turned away. And these Romas come here to beg. And they are still here. Does that make sense to anyone?

4zn76tysfajdxp · 21-11-2007 3:28pm

Bass Cadet wrote: »

You seem so sure...

The fact is, I'm not wrong. As an Irish nation it's pathetic and embarrassing for anyone who considers themselves Irish to have this xenophobic attitude which is prevelant in this thread to immigrants. You're mocking the very same hardship your own people struggled through who I'm sure if they could have worked they would have and eventually prospered throughout the world. If you're big enough to slate immigrants and mock them in this thread, you should be big enough to accept you don't give a flying f*ck about your own people's history

Call me stupid or ignorant but I really don't understand your argument. Do you think it's everybody else's responsibility to support you when you can't find work or something?

SimpleSam06 · 22-11-2007 9:18am

Bass Cadet wrote: »

Why not take out a gun and shoot them and be done with it? Like I said, people would do well to remember our own not too distant history, it wasn't long ago the Irish were looked down upon the very same way that people are talking about 'roma beggars' in this thread. It's history repeating, only now, we're the one's lucky enough to be able to slam a door in someone's face

Bass Cadet wrote: »

You seem so sure...

The fact is, I'm not wrong. As an Irish nation it's pathetic and embarrassing for anyone who considers themselves Irish to have this xenophobic attitude which is prevelant in this thread to immigrants. You're mocking the very same hardship your own people struggled through who I'm sure if they could have worked they would have and eventually prospered throughout the world. If you're big enough to slate immigrants and mock them in this thread, you should be big enough to accept you don't give a flying f*ck about your own people's history

You're setting up a false argument there, comparing Irish emigrants to Roma beggars. First of all this shows you know nothing whatsoever about either the historical context of the Roma or of Irish emigration. The two situations are in no way comparable. As a large, massive clue as to where you are going wrong, count the number of gold teeth in the head of your standard Roma "beggar" the next time they are asking you for change.

In all honesty, people like you are a hazard. You'd hand over your own to be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness because you saw lethal weapon 2 once, and you'd do it singing.

Irene Embarrassed Janitor wrote: »

Do you think it's everybody else's responsibility to support you when you can't find work or something?

It actually is, thats why we have social welfare programs. This however applies only to those who contribute or might at some stage contribute to society in future, not to nimrods from abroad.

Roma beggars at the door

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