problems with mcdonalds.

RoyalMarine

a friend of mine works in mcdonalds.

she's only working there for about 8 weeks now.

she enjoys working there, but some things ive noticed are not really fair.

sunday night she worked from 5pm - 5am.
then she had to be back in work monday morning 11am - 5pm.

im sure there's a legal issue with having 6 hours between your shift?
also, she was only paid the standard rate for the bank holiday.

she was told she's not entitled to the usual double time for a bank holiday because she hasnt completed 13 weeks with the company yet.

are both of these legal?
im not trying to create problems here but i dont think thats fair.

RoyalMarineComm

RoyalMarineComm wrote: »

a friend of mine works in mcdonalds.

she's only working there for about 8 weeks now.

she enjoys working there, but some things ive noticed are not really fair.

sunday night she worked from 5pm - 5am.
then she had to be back in work monday morning 11am - 5pm.

im sure there's a legal issue with having 6 hours between your shift?
also, she was only paid the standard rate for the bank holiday.

she was told she's not entitled to the usual double time for a bank holiday because she hasnt completed 13 weeks with the company yet.

are both of these legal?
im not trying to create problems here but i dont think thats fair.

My very first day working in McD way back when was on a bank holiday, and yes I most certainly did get paid the double rate as did everyone else.

Sounds very iffy, but I don't know what the legal side of things would be

Victor

This should all be in her employee handbook.

RoyalMarineComm wrote: »

sunday night she worked from 5pm - 5am.
then she had to be back in work monday morning 11am - 5pm.

You are entitled to 11 hours between shifts. I'm not aware of any McDonalds that stays open that late, even doing close.

Have a look here: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/employment/employment-rights-and-conditions/hours-of-work/hours_breaks_sundays

And especially here: http://www.entemp.ie/publications/employment/1997/workinghours.doc

There is in addition a registered employment agreement, but I'm not sure if it applies in Dublin City.

also, she was only paid the standard rate for the bank holiday. she was told she's not entitled to the usual double time for a bank holiday because she hasnt completed 13 weeks with the company yet.

There is some restriction on this, but I'm not sure if its as long as 13 weeks.

Have a look here: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/employment/employment-rights-and-conditions/leave-and-holidays/public-holidays-in-ireland

And especially here: http://www.entemp.ie/publications/employment/1997/holidays.pdf

Conditions for qualifying for Public Holiday benefit
3.2 Employees, other than part-time, have an immediate entitlement to public holiday benefits. Part-time employees must have worked at least 40 hours in the 5 weeks ending on the day before the public holiday to qualify for public holiday benefit.

dudara

I think that you have to have worked 40 hours in the preceding 5 weeks to be eligible to be paid for the public holiday.

See here for more information

the_syco

Victor wrote: »

You are entitled to 11 hours between shifts. I'm not aware of any McDonalds that stays open that late, even doing close.

What Victor said: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/employment/employment-rights-and-conditions/hours-of-work/hours_breaks_sundays/ (It's in the Rules bit)

Supercell

The close's in the city centre stores lasted until around 5 (Grafton street and O'Connell Street), or at least they did many many moons ago when I worked in those branches.
I often got scheduled for shifts starting at 11am afterwards and totally hated it, I see the same carry on still applies.
I think they get away with as closes have no defined end time or something, back in those days (the 80's) there was very high unemployment so none really argued about it. I'm surprised they can still do it with effectively zero unemployment.

MagicMarker

Yeah when i worked in burger kind we closed at 10 and would be there till about 12 cleaning up.. AFAIK Maccy D's in town closes around 3am? So it makes sense.

tallaght01

Christ, I remember working for mcdonalds years ago. Outwith the health service, I've never had a worse, more demoralising job. And I've done every job imaginable.

I agree with the poster above, though, in that I thought they'd have to treat people a bit better now that we have such low unemployment. Obviously not. I'd sling me hook, to be honest. It's a crap job, and there's loads of other places you can get work in easily.

the_syco

Longfield wrote: »

The close's in the city centre stores lasted until around 5 (Grafton street and O'Connell Street), or at least they did many many moons ago when I worked in those branches.
I often got scheduled for shifts starting at 11am afterwards and totally hated it, I see the same carry on still applies.
I think they get away with as closes have no defined end time or something, back in those days (the 80's) there was very high unemployment so none really argued about it. I'm surprised they can still do it with effectively zero unemployment.

Now the foreigners are being employed, and as they need the work, I think none really argue about it.

doolox

Get information from citizens advice Bureau or government websites.
Oasis.ie is one. There are rules about minimum break times and shift patterns and rest periods between shifts. 6 hours sleep time sounds too small to me.
Two issues come to mind:- If your language skills are not up to it negotiating with a boss can be hard, try and get the help of a native English speaker to do this.
I don't know what Ireland is like in this regard but the U.S employers exploit undocumented workers because they know they have a weak bargaining position and cannot fight overwork and other abuses. EU citizens and other people here on work visas have exactly the same time of work rights as ordinary citizens. It is a health and safety issue. The rates of pay etc may be different because of Social Welfare and other effects but the hours worked and breakes allowed etc should be the same.

Running Bing

RoyalMarineComm wrote: »

a friend of mine works in mcdonalds.

she's only working there for about 8 weeks now.

she enjoys working there, but some things ive noticed are not really fair.

sunday night she worked from 5pm - 5am.
then she had to be back in work monday morning 11am - 5pm.

im sure there's a legal issue with having 6 hours between your shift?
also, she was only paid the standard rate for the bank holiday.

she was told she's not entitled to the usual double time for a bank holiday because she hasnt completed 13 weeks with the company yet.

are both of these legal?
im not trying to create problems here but i dont think thats fair.

Sounds like she is being treated like crap...there are plenty jobs out there where she would be respected and treated with dignity.


That story is appaling.

Victor

doolox wrote: »

Oasis.ie is one.

Oasis.ie is "The Word for Water Coolers Worldwide". You are thinking of www.oasis.gov.ie which is now www.citizensinformation.ie and linked to above.