Saw 4

Thundercracker

Two things some up my feelings about this movie

• Not as violent as the 3rd installment
• A feeling of being cheated but yet liking that you've been cheated

I dont know how to do spoilers so I cant really talk about certain scenes just in case I ruin it for anyone, but I did feel overall that the film took an easy way out, by leaving it open for a 5th and 6th, one of the main questions I had going into the cinema was the fact of Jigsaws continued presence despite the fact he was dead and not only did they take care of Saw 3's loose bits but they made the ending of that film just seem like a big bloody waste of time

What did people think of this film, did anyone see it?

TerrorFirmer

I posted a review in the film reviews section, thought it was absolute tripe to be honest, and I really liked Saw 3 and loved Saw 2.

I'm still confused to how the end works though, considering that even if we assume that the start is the end or whatever, and the detectives game is just beginning, in the middle of the movie they continuously refer to Jigsaw in the past tense, and profile Amanda - which means they would have found the bodies and are fully aware of how the operation worked and who Amanda is. Yet at the end, we discover Saw 3 and 4 are running concurrently and the FBI find the warehouse with Jigsaws and the other bodies still in place.

I would really appreciate if someone could clarify this for me, or offer something I missed, as the entire cinema when I saw the movie was just like....'what...?'

Thundercracker

HavoK wrote: »

I'm still confused to how the end works though, considering that even if we assume that the start is the end or whatever, and the detectives game is just beginning, in the middle of the movie they continuously refer to Jigsaw in the past tense, and profile Amanda - which means they would have found the bodies and are fully aware of how the operation worked and who Amanda is. Yet at the end, we discover Saw 3 and 4 are running concurrently and the FBI find the warehouse with Jigsaws and the other bodies still in place.

To the best of my understanding

The end of the film and the start of the film, basically everything in the morgue, take place after Jigsaws death. We know a doctor goes missing from the hospital, and then the FBI agent says that Eric Matthews has been gone 6 months, so we know that Saw 2 and Saw 3 were seperated by around 6 months, except for the scenes with Eric Matthews in Saw 3 obviously.

Now you remember in Saw 2 that the son was captured and then released at the end in the safe? So what im thinking is that the son told the cops that Amanda, whom he had escaped the house with, was the person responsible for his capture...another possible thing is that in the 6 months since Saw 2 the detective working for Jigsaw leaked this information himself to his own department, since he was partly handling the case. In the meantime it appears that theyve found the two people responsible and 4 days before Saw 4 Keri is abducted and killed. Hope that clears things up, any more questions feel free to send me a PM

TerrorFirmer

Thanks but I still think the movie was an absolute mess with some serious loose ends, unless they're deliberate to be addressed in the next one. Though to be honest the whole thing is so ambiguous, unlike the other ones it doesn't even seem to make sense in a universally acceptable way.