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NTL - why am I paying for the analogue service?

  • 26-10-2007 8:42pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭


    Silly thought popped into my head yesterday, why with the Go Digital package am I still paying for the basic analogue service? I could live without it but I can't unsubscibe from it.

    Mike.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭nava


    Hi

    Not sure but probably because if you have extra TV's in the house you could still watch analog on them.

    Is the same with broadband you need to have the analog package to get it, again because you could just plug the TV to it and watched it.

    Regards


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,878 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    It would cost much more for NTL to attempt to switch off the analogue signal to customers on a house by house basis, hence they provide it by default. If you have digital, they say that you are paying purely for digital anyway.

    Not worth them doing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭altered121


    I think the confusion here is due to the layout of the ntl bills, shows basic €21.49 then go digital extra €4.50.. but digital is 25.99 in total. all confusing when reading the bill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    As you will discover if you want only Broadband/Phone, the nearly (IMO) unwatchable Analogue service is their "line rental".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,595 ✭✭✭johnnyrotten


    watty wrote: »
    As you will discover if you want only Broadband/Phone, the nearly (IMO) unwatchable Analogue service is their "line rental".

    Unwatchable? I have analogue with perfect reception on my Sony 32" CRT 100hz TV - Perfect picture.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭DingDong


    watty wrote: »
    As you will discover if you want only Broadband/Phone, the nearly (IMO) unwatchable Analogue service is their "line rental".

    If your having problem with analogue you will be more than likely to have problems with dtv. It all depends where you live a upgrade system you should have no problems, if you are its usually handy enough to fix.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    I find the analogue signal is pretty poor these days, now maybe its simply as compared to digital but some stations are pretty damn poor with dark picture and low sound.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Yeah I reckon they are doing it on purpose to force us to switch to their digital services which I won't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,858 ✭✭✭paulm17781


    watty wrote: »
    As you will discover if you want only Broadband/Phone, the nearly (IMO) unwatchable Analogue service is their "line rental".

    Maybe the "unwatchable" is only your area?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Have you ever seen proper off air Analogue rather than cable? Often better than Digital. I won't pay for or watch a service with lines, dots, noise, ghosts or other degradation. I've never seen an analogue cable, Analogue MMDS or multichannel Analogue hotel system with decent pictures.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    watty wrote: »
    As you will discover if you want only Broadband/Phone, the nearly (IMO) unwatchable Analogue service is their "line rental".

    Watty - this is the 21st Century. Analogue cable is spot on nowadays anywhere I've seen it (and I have relations in Dublin and Limerick, living in Waterford myself). You should not generalise in this fashion. See screenshots below (all analogue feeds - captured on a PC TV Card so quality is not 100%).:


    SKY NEWS
    SkyNews.jpg

    Channel 4
    Ch4.jpg

    BBC2
    bbc2.jpg

    City
    City.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭altered121


    watty wrote: »
    As you will discover if you want only Broadband/Phone, the nearly (IMO) unwatchable Analogue service is their "line rental".

    Broadband is available on its own or with phone now
    I was interested in this offer for an associate who does'nt have a tv (Geek:D)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭lensman


    altered121 wrote: »
    Broadband is available on its own or with phone now
    I was interested in this offer for an associate who does'nt have a tv (Geek:D)
    from ntl ???? where did you get this info from prey tell :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    watty wrote: »
    As you will discover if you want only Broadband/Phone, the nearly (IMO) unwatchable Analogue service is their "line rental".

    You must have a problem with your cable there shouldn't be a problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    altered121 wrote: »
    Broadband is available on its own or with phone now
    I was interested in this offer for an associate who does'nt have a tv (Geek:D)

    I don't think that's accurate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭boomerang


    You were always able to get broadband on its own from Chorus. Now that the two companies are merging, (they're now known as Chorus/ntl) they're rationalising the products and prices, so you can now get broadband on its own as an NTL customer, but there's a €6.00 standalone charge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭lensman


    boomerang wrote: »
    You were always able to get broadband on its own from Chorus. Now that the two companies are merging, (they're now known as Chorus/ntl) they're rationalising the products and prices, so you can now get broadband on its own as an NTL customer, but there's a €6.00 standalone charge.
    there (ntl) web site contradicts you m8
    http://www.ntl.ie/service/?cid=123&aid=83


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭altered121


    Freddie59 wrote: »
    I don't think that's accurate.

    Yes You Can get broadband on its own its part of the upc thingie
    call them or a rep. and they will tell you this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    Freddie59 wrote: »
    Watty - this is the 21st Century. Analogue cable is spot on nowadays anywhere I've seen it (and I have relations in Dublin and Limerick, living in Waterford myself). You should not generalise in this fashion. See screenshots below (all analogue feeds - captured on a PC TV Card so quality is not 100%).:

    Those are far from "spot on" TBH - all very grainy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Those are far from "spot on" TBH - all very grainy.

    Hard to judge as capturing the image is going to add its own artifacts. The original complaint was "dark picture and low sound" and those pictures aren't dark anyway. I've rarely seen a perfect picture on analogue or digital. You see a lot of pixelisation and breakup on digital. Analogue has other problems like poor signal quality. You need the right synergy between, signal and the right TV.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭lensman


    altered121 wrote: »
    Yes You Can get broadband on its own its part of the upc thingie
    call them or a rep. and they will tell you this.
    your correct,...just called ntl & they will supply BB on as stand alone service, I forgot to ask about existing customers like me who in the past had to subscribe to their analogue tv service before they would give me BB :( a poor tv service I never use as I have sky tv, maybe someone else might know the answer to this one ???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,858 ✭✭✭paulm17781


    I wonder how this works, how do they stop people watching analogue or is analogue now free?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Those are far from "spot on" TBH - all very grainy.

    have you actually READ the post??:confused: I have already said that they are not 100%, due to being captured on a PC-TV card. Quality problems are inherent. It never ceases to amaze me how many people post without fully reading responses.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭altered121


    lensman wrote: »
    your correct,...just called ntl & they will supply BB on as stand alone service, I forgot to ask about existing customers like me who in the past had to subscribe to their analogue tv service before they would give me BB :( a poor tv service I never use as I have sky tv, maybe someone else might know the answer to this one ???
    Asked this question as well cause i am not sure if i will need the tv part in Galway and was told once i have completed 12 months i can change to broadband only or broadband and phone. Thanks as well for proving broadband on its own was not an hallucination due to bank holiday weekend:D


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