Cars left rotting into the ground but "not for sale"

BrianD3

I was just reading the Laid to Rust section of this months Irish Vintage Scene magazine there were a few rusty heaps in there but they are apparently "not for sale". Why do people hang on to cars to let them rot into the ground rather than sell or scrap them? Is it due to obsessive-compulsiveness (hoarding is a symptom of this) Or is it because of sentimental reasons? For instance maybe it was their Dads's car and they won't let go of it.

I am not criticising the people who do this and in fact can empathise with the sentimentality. But I'd just be interested to hear what other posters think of it.

mike65

I think its near criminal and I don't even own a classic. Letting rot is like leaving a painting out in the rain

Mike.

biko

I can understand that they don't want to part with the car but really it should go to someone who can care for it.

Dades

Cars that are beyond rescuing can look really interesting in the right garden.

Near me there used to be a 2CV poking out of the bushes that had completely overgrown someone's driveway (there was another entrance). One day it had all been cleared - car and all - I was sad to see it go.

That said, there's a pagoda up the road from me that is being wrongly neglected.

cxcully

It gets my blood boiling......in the most recent issue of IVS,there'e an old Post Office van with the original "P&T" markings on the side.......still intact but rotting outdoors up in Leitrim....and of course "not for sale".I hope someone intends working on it soon.
I think there was a post here years ago regarding some oul codger with a field full of cars that he wouldn't sell somewhere in the midlands.

junkyard

I hoard cars, the main reason I don't sell parts off them is that I need the parts for my own fleet and, as sure as God I sell something I'll need it myself next week and can never find the part I'm looking for so that's the main reason I don't sell stuff. I have a few cars that are rotting into the ground too that I've kept for sentimental reasons with a view, someday maybe, of rebuilding.

8~)

I don't have cars rotting into the ground because my wife would lose it completely... there are three scattered around the place never likely to see a road again - but like Junky says, good for parts.

Anyone wanna save a SIII Daimler? Contact me or it'll be in a field sometime soon.

junkyard

What's the story with the Daimler 8~)? I have one in need of a few bits and pieces.

8~)

RE: Daimler, '84, all options including sunrof, purchased a few years ago with MOT (UK plates). Used for a while then parked (indoors) with gearbox issues. Now needs some body restoration and maybe the 'box looking at. Looks great from 4 feet away but rear arches, sills and around lamps have rust... the usual.

Reluctant to scrap because it's a few owner, dealer historied, 85k miles car with a mighty drivetrain, 'box aside ... but I have other cars I'd rather put time into at present.

Might sell, break or trade (for Mercedes 107 or 123 car/parts).

...I'm nowhere near to Cork though!

junkyard

How much do you want for it 8~)? I have loads of Merc 123 parts but I'm starting restoring one I have shortly and don't want to sell anything until my own ones finished.

8~)

500 or thereabouts, Junkyard - I reckon I could get a bit more than that for breaking it but have to factor in the hassle. Interior leather is very good, all electrics working, air con, most panels v. good, etc. 4 decent Kent alloys (and one grotty one), + scrap metal value, etc.

junkyard

Where are you based 8~)? Oh, and what colour is it?

8~)

Maroon, with beige/tan leather. Located in Offaly just off the N62.
Buy it and restore it; you know it makes sense (more so than breaking it for parts!)

junkyard

If you can could you send me photo's to pdm555@hotmail.com thanks.

8~)

PM me if you want pics of any areas in particular.
I'll take some pictures in the next few days; I must do so because I've decided I'm going to advertise it for sale.

...if only you had a white w123T to trade. Still can't get over what a small world it is we live in.

Hearse 1

Better than letting banger racers get them....

G Luxel

I was reading last months issue of the same magazine. The first picture was described as a Ford Anglia but Im sure it looks like a Reliant Regal..... I would be interested to know if there are any P & T vans in preservation. The earliest ones I can remember are the Renault 4 vans.

kikel

G Luxel wrote: »

I would be interested to know if there are any P & T vans in preservation. The earliest ones I can remember are the Renault 4 vans.

1963 VW P&T restoration

http://www.theapplemarket.com/posty/index.htm

maidhc

kikel wrote: »

1963 VW P&T restoration

http://www.theapplemarket.com/posty/index.htm

Holy mother of god.

junkyard

kikel wrote: »

1963 VW P&T restoration

http://www.theapplemarket.com/posty/index.htm

He must have chickened out!!!!:D There was another van just like that one in a field after Half way on the right heading for Innishannon for years, it might even still be there.

gyppo

maidhc wrote: »

Holy mother of god.

+1, that is some undertaking.

Daxklynsmith

Speechless !!

Dades

That van looks like it made of rivita!

cxcully

Heroic stuff.Respect is due.

G Luxel

junkyard wrote: »

There was another van just like that one in a field after Half way on the left heading for Innishannon for years, it might even still be there.

The van is now laid to rest under a pile of concrete and rubble on the side of the road. It was left there around 1993. A house is now built on the site and according to a neighbour living there at the time, he states that the van was under the rubble. Up to that time, it could still be viewed from the roadside although it appears to have crumpled into the ground. Although you could possibly stop and have a look around to find anything left of it.

FatTony2000

There is a few P and T vans in the national transport museum none of them vw though.
Here is a few pics of back in the day.

And that P and T being restored is still on going Thanks for the words of support. The only thing I can say is that I didn't realize that it was that bad when I started and now too many people know about it to ever give up. Thankfully I am in no hurry.

There was an other one seen on the back of a trailer in Waterford a few months ago if anyone knows where it ended up I'd love to know.

Abelloid

kikel wrote: »

1963 VW P&T restoration

http://www.theapplemarket.com/posty/index.htm

That's the one that inspired me to get off my arse and buy a welder and get on with my own resto

Surfer

well if anyone knows of any others around please let me know as I would love a project of one too, even in as bad as condition. Something to keep busy during the winter months
cheers
Mark

MercMad

Jeeeeeeeeez I read that whole website !

That is some undertaking, but its terrific that someone has the skills and foresight to save what is not only a beautiful van, but also a piece of interesting Irish history !

Fair play and love the photos !

hi5

Best of luck with finishing it FATTONY2000,cant wait to see it when its done,I can just about remember them on the road,if memory serves me well there were quite a few splitscreens on Irish roads back in the day.
Are any original Irish splitties on the roads now,I've never seen any at shows?

FatTony2000

This one is on the road.(see attachment)

It too was a P and T but has since been painted grey/silver. There are 9 surviving Irish assembled split vans that I know of.
I'm going to check out an RTE split mini bus next week that is being restored.

Kevin_Herron

Hoodride!!

Abelloid

Kevin_Herron wrote: »

Hoodride!!

That bandwagon was impounded.

corktina

:rolleyes:i thought one was supposed to call thme "bus" not "van"

Abelloid

Bus has windows.