lubricating a pistol?

Masada

ive noticed people talking about silicone oil for this but im just wondering does anyone think WD40 would be a problem? i dont think its silicone based but cant really see why it would be bad?.,

cheers,

Shiva

vtec wrote: »

ive noticed people talking about silicone oil for this but im just wondering does anyone think WD40 would be a problem? i dont think its silicone based but cant really see why it would be bad?.,

cheers,

It would be bad.
Very very bad.

WD40 is petroleum based, and petroleum based oil eats rubber for dinner - so the rubber gas seals in your pistol and mag would be destroyed pretty quickly.

Use silicon oil only.

Masada

Shiva wrote: »

It would be bad.
Very very bad.

WD40 is petroleum based, and petroleum based oil eats rubber for dinner - so the rubber gas seals in your pistol and mag would be destroyed pretty quickly.

Use silicon oil only.

oh right, that makes sense i suppose, good thing i asked as i sit here with M9 in hand, WD40 in other hand.,lol.,:o

Shiva

vtec wrote: »

oh right, that makes sense i suppose, good thing i asked as i sit here with M9 in hand, WD40 in other hand.,lol.,:o

You see that two minute gap between your original post and my answer ?
That's how long I spent wondering whether to answer as an airsofter who doesn't want you to damage your pistol, or a retailer who wants to sell you a replacement





I'm joking, of course.
It only took one minute 45 seconds to decide.

Masada

lol., a good call in the end.,:D Ill get some silicone oil from ya when you get the propane adapters in and i might be tempted to go for the glock 19 ive been looking at on your site.,lol

Shiva

vtec wrote: »

lol., a good call in the end.,:D Ill get some silicone oil from ya when you get the propane adapters in and i might be tempted to go for the glock 19 ive been looking at on your site.,lol

Actually, now that you mention it.....

I heard from Airsoft Innovations the other day (the guys who make the propane adapter), and the batch that's on its way to me now includes a 5oz bottle of silicon oil with each adapter, so you wont need to buy silicon oil just to spray on the nozzle of the propane cannister.

Masada

cool, i wasnt really sure how the whole adapter and oil thing worked, i take it you injected some of it into the mag so that it goes up through the gun with the gas?

Shiva

vtec wrote: »

cool, i wasnt really sure how the whole adapter and oil thing worked, i take it you injected some of it into the mag so that it goes up through the gun with the gas?

Every 10 or so fills, you spray some silicon oil onto the nozzle of the propane cannister, then attach the adapter and fill your mag. Some oil gets transferred into the mags with the gas, and lubricates your pistol as the gas travels through.

That's the only difference between green gas and propane - green gun gas has silicon oil already added. Oh....and something to disguise the smell

Masada

cheers shiva,
propane is a lot cheaper than green gas so handy to know.,
will keep an eye on the site for the adapters and give ya a shout..,;)

NakedDex

Shiva wrote: »

Oh....and something to disguise the smell

And that's the reason I'm going back to green gas. Unless someone can make a dropper bottle of deodeuriser I can put in with the propane.

bullets

NakedDex wrote: »

And that's the reason I'm going back to green gas. Unless someone can make a dropper bottle of deodeuriser I can put in with the propane.

You used to be able to buy a deodorizer dropper bottle (tiny tiny bottle)
where you would put 2-3 droplets of it into your Kitchens bin or your wheelie
bin. It was supposed to be so effective that it would remove or mask the smell o
of the bin. Have not seen it in the shops in years they used to sell it in Tescos.

I wonder if oil you use on those aromotherpy things where you place a few
drops of it in water and then use a candle to heat up the water and make the
scent evaporate would work.

~B

Boston

massively off topic, but what shiva outlined above is also why you never use oil based lube with condoms, unless you want babies.

kdouglas

bullets wrote: »

You used to be able to buy a deodorizer dropper bottle (tiny tiny bottle)
where you would put 2-3 droplets of it into your Kitchens bin or your wheelie
bin. It was supposed to be so effective that it would remove or mask the smell o
of the bin. Have not seen it in the shops in years they used to sell it in Tescos.

I wonder if oil you use on those aromotherpy things where you place a few
drops of it in water and then use a candle to heat up the water and make the
scent evaporate would work.

~B

i'd actually be tempted to try that, but i'd imagine the aromatherapy oils would not be good for the mag or the gun

kdouglas

Boston wrote: »

massively off topic, but what shiva outlined above is also why you never use oil based lube with condoms, unless you want babies.

*** Hands Boston the boards.ie award for most off-topic post ever ***

Oh... and take it to S&S

[--SC(+)PE--]

Here, Vtec just a slight bit of advise, im not to sure how thick the little bit of oil ya get with the new propane adapters are but the bottle that came with mine [older version] was realy realy thick and messed up one of m9's for quite a while as the oil made the hammer and the trigger stick and move too slowly causing all sorts of annoyance's. Id reccomend getting a seperate can of silicone spray for lubing and just use the one that comes with the adapter for the adpter.

Masada

*** Hands Boston the boards.ie award for most off-topic post ever ***

Oh... and take it to S&S

it was pretty off topic huh, i wonder if its from experience? ., might have a gang of kids.,lol

conor-mr2

Ive read elsewhere that there is a power difference between, lets call it airsoft gas (coz im including bith green and red) and propane but has anyone here had a real live experience of it who can tell me whether it is less powerful than the airsoft gas?

Masada

i think green gas and propane are the same thing, as for red isnt that less powerful than the others?.,

kdouglas

i find propane gives a bit more kick than green gas in terms of blow back, but havent really noticed much in the range, havent tested with red gas yet

when i get a chrono ill test with both in the same gun and see the difference

vtec wrote: »

i think green gas and propane are the same thing, as for red isnt that less powerful than the others?.,

red is more powerful than green

basically it's

134a < green gas/propane < red gas

green/propane are supposedly identical in terms of pressure etc.. but personally i find propane a tiny bit more powerful as i said above

Masada

oh right., got it the other way around,

where do you get your propane? is it the same stuff that they use for the those camping fire thingys?

ED E

kdouglas wrote: »

i find propane gives a bit more kick than green gas in terms of blow back, but havent really noticed much in the range, havent tested with red gas yet

when i get a chrono ill test with both in the same gun and see the difference




red is more powerful than green

basically it's

134a < green gas/propane < red gas

green/propane are supposedly identical in terms of pressure etc.. but personally i find propane a tiny bit more powerful as i said above

Same experience. I'd say this is due to the lube in green gas. The same volume is in the mags but with green a very small portion of that is lube, which doesnt expand rapidly when it meets the air.

Shinealight

Is silicone really that important will any oil not do?

Stercus Accidit

Shinealight wrote: »

Is silicone really that important will any oil not do?

Well it all depends if you want your gun to work or not.

Shiva

Im_MacGyver wrote: »

ive noticed people talking about silicone oil for this but im just wondering does anyone think WD40 would be a problem? i dont think its silicone based but cant really see why it would be bad?.,

cheers,

Awww.....Doesnt that just bring a tear to your eye ?

Young Vtec taking his first faltering steps into airsoft maintenance.....

Stercus Accidit

First thing that came to mind actually.


Lol n00b!

kdouglas

Shinealight wrote: »

Is silicone really that important will any oil not do?

The reason for using silicone oil is that it will not damage rubber o-rings in your gun,wd40 and other oils will damage them.