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Useable classic ???

  • 18-10-2007 8:04pm
    #1
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭


    Myself and my missus relocated to Munich recently and sold up everything in Dublin including cars and bikes.

    We are thinking about a useable classic, something that doesn't require huge amounts of molly-coddling etc, something we could pop down to the shops in if needed or take for a casual Sunday drive. We don't really need a car during the week because the public transport here is anally efficient.

    Ideally a 70's German built auto diesel for ease of maintenance etc, any suggestions??


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  • #2
    Anan1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    W123 Mercedes 300D?


  • #3
    Eric318
    Closed Accounts Posts: 446 ✭✭Eric318


    This is what you want:

    m8.jpg

    Local brand, 70 years old and great space for your shopping ;)


  • #4
    8~)
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭8~)


    Anan1 wrote: »
    W123 Mercedes 300D?
    snap


  • #5
    gyppo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭gyppo


    W123 on my shopping list too. 300D would be nice, but what about the 240D?
    Is it much more underpowered?


  • #6
    junkyard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭junkyard


    I'd go for a mark 1 or 2 VW Golf diesel or, as the others mentioned, a 123 Merc.


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  • #7
    RoundyMooney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭RoundyMooney


    If you're looking at the 80s, an E30 is a safe bet, an 'is of course.


  • #8
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    RoundyMooney wrote: »
    If you're looking at the 80s, an E30 is a safe bet, an 'is of course.


    We had 2 E30's in Dublin and have sort of grown out of them.

    The old Merc's are looking very very tempting ;)

    Forgot to mention it has to be 30 years old or close.


  • #9
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,091 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    The W123 was introduced about 30 years ago. Only problem is most of them might have gone east by now? If you're going for a 300D, try to find one with a replacement TD engine! (think the designation might be SD???).

    Not your ornery onager



  • #10
    Blue850
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Blue850


    116schwarz.jpg
    W116 300SD turbodiesel?


  • #11
    MercMad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭MercMad


    I'd go for the W123 300D also !

    The 5 cylinder engine is far nicer than the 240D


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  • #12
    --amadeus--
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭--amadeus--


    KTRIC wrote: »
    anally efficient

    That is an image I really could do without...!

    Why does it have to be diesel? How about a 70's BMW, you should be able to pick up a 3.0 CS fairly cheaply and it'll run forever. Better looking than a Merc as well :D


  • #13
    tc20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,454 ✭✭✭tc20


    KTRIC wrote: »
    Forgot to mention it has to be 30 years old or close.

    why this criteria KTRIC? Are there similar benefits in the Fatherland to owning/driving a 30yr+ motor, as here, vis a vis taxation, insurance etc?
    Just curious..

    and i'd plum for the W123 diesel too!


  • #14
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    tc20 wrote: »
    why this criteria KTRIC? Are there similar benefits in the Fatherland to owning/driving a 30yr+ motor, as here, vis a vis taxation, insurance etc?
    Just curious..

    and i'd plum for the W123 diesel too!


    Very low insurance, no tax (i think) , so the prefernce would be at least 30 years old. That and we really like 70's cars :D


  • #15
    tc20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,454 ✭✭✭tc20


    Cool... I suspect that you will have a much wider range of choice available to you over there. Good luck, and let us know what you pick up


  • #16
    superboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭superboy


    try an Audi 100S coupe. I know its not diesel, but its a beautiful, and practical car (big boot). the saloon is good too!


  • #17
    8~)
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭8~)


    gyppo wrote: »
    W123 on my shopping list too. 300D would be nice, but what about the 240D?
    Is it much more underpowered?

    240 is just about OK - will do around town and suburbia, but forget about rapid overtaking or doing much over 60 mph on the open roads. In terms of refinement it's generations away from modern diesels.

    300 5 cyl is a smoother engine with more power but still generations away from the more modern engines.


  • #18
    Alfasudcrazy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Alfasudcrazy


    I think an NSU R080 would do for you. Driving a Merc in Germany isn't going to satisfy as much as a rarer more interesting car.

    Congrats and best wishes on the move to Munich. It is a beautiful city. :cool:

    WebLondontoBrighton2003finish1.jpg


  • #19
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,091 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Definitely worth looking for something with an SD (turbo) engine fitted.

    Not your ornery onager



  • #20
    Dord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    Ah ya know you want a beetle, don't deny it ;)


  • #21
    Anan1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Seeing as you're going to Munich, I suppose it might be no harm to consider an older BMW.;)


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  • #22
    Max_Damage
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭Max_Damage


    Blue850 wrote: »
    116schwarz.jpg
    W116 300SD turbodiesel?

    Only available in the American market if I'm not mistaken.


  • #23
    rambler924
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31 ✭rambler924


    Very low insurance, no tax (i think) , so the prefernce would be at least 30 years old. That and we really like 70's cars

    You might want to research testing standards on classic cars over there, I was recently talking to a German classic car owner and he informed me that he has his cars registered in France because the German standards are extremely strict.


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