Trinity halls residents - STFU!

eth0_

Sorry, I have to get this off my chest

I live very close to Trinity Halls and without sounding like a grumpy oul wan - keep the fscking noise down when you're walking up from the luas after a night out!

You're lucky to live in such a nice area, not shouting and roaring at 1am on your way back to halls would be a nice way of showing some appreciation :rolleyes:

dan719

But everyone gets dropped back by taxi to the front gate after a night out.So we wouldn't be walking from the luas. Also we are lucky to be in halls but we are also paying good money for it.

dan719

dan719 wrote: »

But everyone gets dropped back by taxi to the front gate after a night out.So we wouldn't be walking from the luas. Also we are lucky to be in halls but we are also paying good money for it.

Last luas is still 12:30 is it? And just because you pay good money doesn't mean you can act the dick.

Boston

They're paying good money to be anti social retards, and how dare you say other wise eth0.

Myth, afaik the luas run until 2

eth0_

dan719 wrote: »

But everyone gets dropped back by taxi to the front gate after a night out.So we wouldn't be walking from the luas. Also we are lucky to be in halls but we are also paying good money for it.

Oh yeah 'everyone' even though the Luas runs til 2am several nights a week :rolleyes:

I pay even more than you to live in a private house so i'm also entitled not to listen to obnoxious twits when they wake me up.

Cop on :rolleyes:

DaXiS

And you were honestly expecting quiet every night, even though you live beside many hundreds of students?

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eth0_

eth0_ wrote: »

Oh yeah 'everyone' even though the Luas runs til 2am several nights a week :rolleyes:

I pay even more than you to live in a private house so i'm also entitled not to listen to obnoxious twits when they wake me up.

Cop on :rolleyes:

If you feel like getting your own back, their exams usually start around the 19th of May or so each year. But seriously, if it's a continuous problem it might be worth complaining to the warden, then sleeping with the first years, then annoying them next May.

Your move.

prothalamium

DaXiS wrote: »

And you were honestly expecting quiet every night, even though you live beside many hundreds of students?

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Err that doesn't put the non-student area residents in the wrong, though. I mean yeah, if I was living near halls I would expect noise, but the students making noise are still being totally inconsiderate when you remember that these are long-term residents with mortgages (much, much higher amount than the rent paid by many of those students' parents) and kids and jobs who are there to stay. Like eth0_ said - those students are temporary guests in that lovely area and should be a bit quieter. They are adults, right? I'm a student and I drink/have fun but on the other hand, I know what it's like to be kept up at night by noise. It really, really sucks.

Apparently there was a fair stir-up when the residents found out Halls were being built... so they did have a point.

the flananator

eth0_ wrote: »

Sorry, I have to get this off my chest

I live very close to Trinity Halls and without sounding like a grumpy oul wan - keep the fscking noise down when you're walking up from the luas after a night out!

You're lucky to live in such a nice area, not shouting and roaring at 1am on your way back to halls would be a nice way of showing some appreciation :rolleyes:

No.

eth0_

the flananator wrote: »

No.

Let me guess, first time living away from mammy and daddy for you?

the_syco

the flananator wrote: »

No.

Take this whichever way you want: be prepared to get kicked out for breaking the lease. Pretty sure it says somewhere on it that you must behave after a certain time. One two many complaints, you and a few others will get the boot.

Try explaining that, and the loss of your deposit, to mammy and daddy.

Pet

It's not unknown for the gardai to be floating around on occasion, and trust me, they WILL collar you if you're being a prick.

I've gone on trolley races at 5am through Palmerston Park, but I at least had the sense and decency to keep quiet whilst on Temple Road/Rathmines Road. And it wasn't even all that hard. It can be done, and easily.

Edit: since when does the Luas run until 2am?

low

This thread is spastastic.

First of all, eth0 telling people they're lucky to live in the same area as her because it's so nice? Is this implying they should be leaving some where less nice or what? They should show some appreciation for their address?

Then people seem to be trying to say that based on how much you pay for your property it effects out anti-social you're entitled to be?

The area around trinity halls is actually quite strange. To one side you have the Brazilian ambassadors residence to the other you have a council estate.

Boston

Pet wrote: »

Edit: since when does the Luas run until 2am?

I've never been on it at that time, however on at least one occasion over the summer people I know got it around that time.

Low: Rented accommodation is difficult to come across in the city these days, just ask pet, so yes, they are lucky, especially to live in halls.

eth0_

low wrote: »

First of all, eth0 telling people they're lucky to live in the same area as her because it's so nice? Is this implying they should be leaving some where less nice or what? They should show some appreciation for their address?

Then people seem to be trying to say that based on how much you pay for your property it effects out anti-social you're entitled to be?

The area around trinity halls is actually quite strange. To one side you have the Brazilian ambassadors residence to the other you have a council estate.

No I wasn't. I said the people in Trinity halls are lucky their college accommodation is in such a nice area, unlike other colleges. You should show respect for your neighbours but particularly when you are living in a residential area.

Where is the council estate you're talking about? There's some council houses off Rathmines road but that's not exactly next door...

Unshelved

eth0_
If the problem is as bad as you say it is, then you should take your complaints directly to the Warden of Trinity Hall. His name is Brendan Tangney, his phone number is 896 1223 and his email address is tangney@tcd.ie

Time Magazine

And shut up while you're walking around New Square at 1am, too.

sully-gormo

Warden is major pissed from residents' complaints, had a compulsory lec yesterday and he went on and on about it. Dosent seem to be anything he can do

Closing Doors

The Luas does in it's arse run til 2am. The last "official" one from town on the Green Line leaves at half 12, and then there's another one 15/20 minutes later.

mizz.yelof!!!

last year the bargain that we ended up with in order to keep jcr events going was that the jcr would man temple road while students walked to the luas, basically we were just to be present on temple road for half hour (infact not even half hour) after our vig events. seemed only fair, we poured drink into them so their loudness was as a result of our parties. it worked out very well, residents were very happy with it and no studnets ever complained. it wasnt like we were marching them down to the luas, if a group were getting roudy we'd just say it to them to keep it for the luas! . as regards coming home, that is up to the indiviual themselves, most people have to cop on not to be singing at the top of their voices at 3 in the morning coming into halls, it only draws attention onto yourself.

as regards the luas running till2? since when? all that was ever there before was the christmas week special thing where it ran till 3.30 and was as bad as trying to get a luas at 8 in the morning!!!

prothalamium

low wrote: »

This thread is spastastic.

First of all, eth0 telling people they're lucky to live in the same area as her because it's so nice? Is this implying they should be leaving some where less nice or what? They should show some appreciation for their address?

Then people seem to be trying to say that based on how much you pay for your property it effects out anti-social you're entitled to be?

The area around trinity halls is actually quite strange. To one side you have the Brazilian ambassadors residence to the other you have a council estate.

I think it's pretty simple: most of those young adults are having their rent paid by their parents. They are incredibly lucky to have that, and also to have been granted a place at Trinity Halls - it's a well-policed area, the capacity is limited and it's practically a hotel compared with the student accommodation I've endured in the past. These are privileges TCD students have in particular, and they should just act like the adults they legally are. I'm in full support of stricter guidelines on noise levels in Halls particularly, and of course in rented accommodation (no matter what the expense is) in general.

The council flats are located approximately half a mile from Halls.

low

prothalamium wrote: »

I think it's pretty simple: most of those young adults are having their rent paid by their parents. They are incredibly lucky to have that, and also to have been granted a place at Trinity Halls - it's a well-policed area, the capacity is limited and it's practically a hotel compared with the student accommodation I've endured in the past. These are privileges TCD students have in particular, and they should just act like the adults they legally are. I'm in full support of stricter guidelines on noise levels in Halls particularly, and of course in rented accommodation (no matter what the expense is) in general.

The council flats are located approximately half a mile from Halls.

yes and we should all be grateful we have bread on our plates too.

SHOCKER: Young people being noisy!

the flananator

Let me guess, first time living away from mammy and daddy for you?

No to that also. The reason I was being obtuse is because a) I do not fall into the category of the "rambuncios yahoos" that apparently keep you awake at night (even though the vast majority are taxied to the front gate after a night out and thus go no-where near Temple Road) and b) The thought that you thought that opening this topic would make the slightest bit of difference is laughable. Get a life.

Richard W

eth0_ wrote: »

Sorry, I have to get this off my chest

I live very close to Trinity Halls and without sounding like a grumpy oul wan - keep the fscking noise down when you're walking up from the luas after a night out!

You're lucky to live in such a nice area, not shouting and roaring at 1am on your way back to halls would be a nice way of showing some appreciation :rolleyes:

They aught to show you a bit of courtesy, but any appreciation should really be directed at whoever's paying the rent to be fair, so either their parents or college or whatever. It's not like it was you who gave them accommodation there.

eth0_ wrote: »

Let me guess, first time living away from mammy and daddy for you?

For most people it is the first time they're living away from their parents. Is this supposed to be insulting? We all have to move out sometime, and insulting someone for moving out is like insulting a child for being a child. It's just being ****.

prothalamium

low wrote: »

SHOCKER: Young people being noisy!

I'll repeat what I wrote first: just because it happens doesn't mean it's right. Hence the concept of change.

dan719

Myth wrote: »

Last luas is still 12:30 is it? And just because you pay good money doesn't mean you can act the dick.

Last luas is around quarter to one, I have missed it on occasion.

Also I never claimed that paying for halls justified anti-social behaviour, nothing does. I don't go down temple road on the way back from nights out,. it's easier to walk through rathmines or just take a taxi.

Also on the rules relating to be thrown out of halls;
The licence to reside is granted from provost, this is disolved to the warden.
This is not a standard tenant agreement, instead it can be revoked at any time, how likely this is to happen I do not know.

Crash

HATE license to reside. nothing like living somewhere at high rents with zero rights.

CantGetNoSleep

Trinity Hall on the front page of the Irish Times today

low

çrash_000 wrote: »

HATE license to reside. nothing like living somewhere at high rents with zero rights.

Well, just to be fair, it's not like you have any reason to complain about sfuff, presuming we're talking about college campus.

Pet

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

Trinity Hall on the front page of the Irish Times today

What for?

low

i had a look just there and didn't see anything on the front page of saturday's irish times on trinity hall. the gmb is on page 3 with a picture of paisley giving his lecture to the hist.

prothalamium

Not so relevant to the post, but here it is.

*Court ruling set aside over perception of bias*

The Supreme Court has set aside one of its own judgments after it emerged that the brother of Chief Justice John Murray was a partner in a firm involved in the case. Mary Carolan and Paul Cullen report.

The court set aside the judgment reached four years ago in a case brought against Trinity College Dublin over student accommodation designed by architects Murray Ó Laoire. Hugh Murray, a brother of the Chief Justice, is a partner in the firm.

The court based its decision on grounds of "objective bias", or the possibility that an observer might perceive bias, even though Hugh Murray, who is based in Limerick, was not in any way involved in the litigation.

It is highly unusual, though not unprecedented, for a court to set aside one of its own judgments, one legal expert said last night.

A spokesman for the Courts Service said the Chief Justice "couldn't and wouldn't" be commenting on the decision, in accordance with long-standing conventions.

"This happens in every common law jurisdiction when some new information comes to light," a court source claimed. "There's nothing unusual in such circumstances for a judgment to be vacated."

The decision was handed down in long-running proceedings taken by James Kenny, Temple Road, Dartry, against the college over the building of student residences at Dartry Hall. Mr Kenny objected to the development, which has since been built. Contacted last night, Mr Kenny declined to comment on the judgment.

In 2003, Trinity College applied to have Mr Kenny's proceedings struck out. The Supreme Court granted the application with the court's judgment being given by Mr Justice Murray.

However, last January, Mr Kenny applied to the court for an order vacating the order made in 2003. He said in an affidavit that he became aware last year that Mr Justice Murray's brother was a partner in Murray Ó Laoire, which designed the Trinity Hall development.

Murray Ó Laoire Architects, which was founded by Hugh Murray and Seán Ó Laoire in Limerick nearly 30 years, is Ireland's largest architectural practice, with offices in Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Moscow, Bratislava (Slovakia) and Aachen (Germany).

According to Mr Kenny, Murray Ó Laoire's name appeared "on virtually all the documents which were before the Supreme Court" in 2003 and its name appeared clearly on all the plans exhibited and lodged in both the High Court and the Supreme Court.

Trinity responded with two facts it said "indisputably" distanced Hugh Murray from the facts of the case.

It said the architect had no involvement with the Trinity Hall development. He was based in Limerick, not Dublin. Secondly, the architect's firm was not a party to the case, although a member of staff appeared as a witness in proceedings.

In its judgment delivered this week, Mr Justice Nial Fennelly said that the court must act with great care and circumspection to ensure respect for the principle that justice must not only be done but be seen to be done. It should err on the side of caution.
© 2007 The Irish Times

Source

europerson

low wrote: »

i had a look just there and didn't see anything on the front page of saturday's irish times on trinity hall.

It's the main headline, but it's not particularly relevant to non-law students!

low

europerson wrote: »

It's the main headline, but it's not particularly relevant to non-law students!

My apologies you're absolutely right! For some reason I was expecting a picture of the buildings or at least the words Trinity Hall in the title!

Crash

low wrote: »

Well, just to be fair, it's not like you have any reason to complain about sfuff, presuming we're talking about college campus.

Low: I lived on campus last year, and as the year went on I began to realise I was paying OTT rents for a highly substandard service and largely to be treated poorly by security and buildings maintenance staff.

I enjoyed my year, but would live in town, not on campus, if I were living city centre again.

Hell, in some places, for instance botany, rents wouldnt differ that much!

low

What difference does the license to reside issue make to that? Your points, though largely valid are just criticism on college accommodation rather than the techncailites of your stay there, which I was referring to.

Living on campus has it's ups and downs and you have to trade them off against each other.

Pros are generally, closeness to college, no messing around with bills, no dodgy landlords, good security, "free" internet and tv, no tv license

Cons are obviously you've living under someone else's rules, issues about having guests, no room for negotiations with landlords etc.

FenderGibson

eth0_ wrote: »

Sorry, I have to get this off my chest

I live very close to Trinity Halls and without sounding like a grumpy oul wan - keep the fscking noise down when you're walking up from the luas after a night out!

You're lucky to live in such a nice area, not shouting and roaring at 1am on your way back to halls would be a nice way of showing some appreciation :rolleyes:

Feel the same. Just posted a similar thread and found this one. Obviously its an ongoing problem. Maybe it's just the Freshers Week ?

Tears in Rain

FenderGibson wrote: »

Feel the same. Just posted a similar thread and found this one. Obviously its an ongoing problem. Maybe it's just the Freshers Week ?

Two posts 6 years apart, yep, definitely a major ongoing problem! Maybe give Joe a ring?