Why are judges so f**king stupid

DonJose

When a person is convicted of a crime, WTF do judges let them out on bail awaiting sentences. If they do let them out on bail why don't they confiscate their passports.

A convicted drug dealer who was due to be sentenced this morning could now be in Spain, according to a judge at the Dublin District Court.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1016/gilligand.html

A man who had been convicted of rape and had left Ireland before he was sentenced has been jailed for seven years at the Central Criminal court.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1015/moranc.html

Latchy

Doesn't surprise me, I cant remember in recent years picking up a newspapar and reading that a convicted criminal was giving a sentence appropiate to his/her crime. Day after day we see the most henious of crimes go unpunished by leinent soft sentences .

Judges tend to live on different planets compared to the rest of us . .

NoQuarter

i think ill become a judge...

baztard

Its complaceny, their almost impossible to fire once they become a judge. I'd say most judgements are as much down to the judges personality as they are the law.

Latchy

=king-stew;54213509]i think ill become a judge...

Ah shucks you want to escape the real world to ?.

kevmy

baztard wrote: »

I'd say most judgements are as much down to the judges personality as they are the law.

Judgements of guilt are certainly down to the law. Sentencing judgements are definitely influenced by the judges personality.

There should be sentencing guidelines laid down for certain types of crime.

Wacker

The OP makes a good point; people on bail should have their passports confiscated. All the subsequent points, complaining about overly lenient sentencing, are not so good. Judges are completely over a barrell when it comes to sentencing, as they understand that there are too few prison spaces. The situation isn't that there are hundreds of empty cells while rapists et al get suspended sentences. I'm sure judges would love to lay down some tough sentences, but they understand that they simply don't have that option.

rubadub

Give them time to flee- in effect it is dumping them on someone elses doorstep. I costs an absolute fortune to hold a prisoner.

Terry

DonJose wrote: »

When a person is convicted of a crime, WTF do judges let them out on bail awaiting sentences. If they do let them out on bail why don't they confiscate their passports.

A convicted drug dealer who was due to be sentenced this morning could now be in Spain, according to a judge at the Dublin District Court.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1016/gilligand.html

A man who had been convicted of rape and had left Ireland before he was sentenced has been jailed for seven years at the Central Criminal court.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1015/moranc.html

Lack of prison spaces.
I suggest we build a big prison near your house.

JohnnyStones

no prison places?

yes maybe,(that's a good point) but the judge's don't seem to care if they release a dangerous person back into society, knowing that this person will commit another crime(out of his court out of his/her mind);

qz

Forfeiting a passport often is one of the requirements if the accused is seeking bail. Why it didn't happen in the mentioned cases I've no idea.

qz

JohnnyStones wrote: »

no prison places?

yes maybe,(that's a good point) but the judge's don't seem to care if they release a dangerous person back into society, knowing that this person will commit another crime(out of his court out of his/her mind);

Technically, the accused is innocent until proven guilty, so they might not necessarily be committing another crime. Sorry to be a pain in the hole but I was given out to today for making the same mistake and I wanted to share the lesson!

DonJose

Terry wrote: »

Lack of prison spaces.
I suggest we build a big prison near your house.

I wouldn't object to that. There already is a prison close to my parents home. They should bundle the scumbags 4 to a cell, problem solved.

DonJose

qz wrote: »

Technically, the accused is innocent until proven guilty, so they might not necessarily be committing another crime. Sorry to be a pain in the hole but I was given out to today for making the same mistake and I wanted to share the lesson!

In the 2 cases I listed above, both scumbags were already found guilty. They were awaiting sentencing.

NoQuarter

baztard wrote: »

Its complaceny, their almost impossible to fire once they become a judge. I'd say most judgements are as much down to the judges personality as they are the law.

yup the only way a judge can be removed from office is by resolutions passed by the Dail and Seanad, sent to the president and then she removes them from office!

they do have guidlines to follow, its called pecedent, a court is bound to the decisions of the higher courts previous decisions!