New Boards Upgrades

godtabh

Can any one point me in the right direction for all the upgrades and new user features after the upgrade.

Maybe its because its Monday morning but I cant find for example what infractions is and what it does

seamus

Feature list here: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=186803

With infractions, the rule for the moment is "If you don't know what they're for, don't use them".

Forum with some discussion here:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=990

Mr Magnolia

Infraction Mods can give out infractions for various reasons, infractions have points and lapse dates attached, if you pass a certain point threshold you might be auto-banned etc.

Yellow/Red Cards, as someone put it.


Don't know about the additional features except for 'search for users posts'

Mr Magnolia

seamus wrote: »

Feature list here: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=186803

Thanks for that, couldn't find it.

With infractions, the rule for the moment is "If you don't know what they're for, don't use them".

Forum with some discussion here:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=990

The OP won't have access to that link.

godtabh

So infractions is like the penalty points system with the Mods been the Garda and a speeding offence being something like perosnal abuse or what not?

Some other interesting stuff on the list gona look at it later.

Should there be a sticky on feedback or new users/faq for this?

seamus

D'oh, thought you were a mod.

Pretty much like that kearnsr. Different infractions get you different points, and after X points you get your rights curtailed.

It hasn't been implemented in any serious capacity, there's a lot to iron out on it. For the moment it appears as though the mods are using it as a handy "Warn user" feature, which also provides an audit trail.

Mods shouldn't be giving out infraction outside of their own forums. Start a help desk thread if this happens to you.

godtabh

seamus wrote: »

D'oh, thought you were a mod.

No harm done. maybe one day I'll get invited to one of them coke fulled mod parties (honestley I wouldnt be pushed as I'm more of a Club Lemon kind of man).

seamus wrote: »

Pretty much like that kearnsr. Different infractions get you different points, and after X points you get your rights curtailed.

It hasn't been implemented in any serious capacity, there's a lot to iron out on it. For the moment it appears as though the mods are using it as a handy "Warn user" feature, which also provides an audit trail.

Mods shouldn't be giving out infraction outside of their own forums. Start a help desk thread if this happens to you.

The reason why I was asking was the rozie thread that got closed and was trying to figure out what was going on.

I also wanted to know how to use other features.

Tom Dunne

I notice there is also a feature TO STOP YOU FROM SHOUTING.

Basically, if you post in all caps, vBulletin "fixes" it for you and changes the words to lower case.

Edit: Ok, that did work. It didn't work over on BG+RH. I is confused?????

humbert

Is the user automatically notified of an infraction and is the offending post and/or mod involved recorded with it?

Sparky

humbert wrote: »

Is the user automatically notified of an infraction and is the offending post and/or mod involved recorded with it?

Yes, via email and PM

DeVore

It Only Works If Everything In The Thread Is Caps Afaik.... Then It Becomes Like This One

AlmightyCushion

DeVore wrote: »

It Only Works If Everything In The Thread Is Caps Afaik.... Then It Becomes Like This One

THAT'S KINDA KEWWL.

Edit: That didn't work for me.

Edit 2: Oh wait everything in the thread, I thought you said post.

Tom Dunne

DeVore wrote: »

It Only Works If Everything In The Thread Is Caps Afaik.... Then It Becomes Like This One

Aha.

THANK YOU DEVORE YOU ARE YOUR USUAL HELPFUL SELF.

godtabh

Spankeh wrote: »

Yes, via email and PM

Is this likely to get caught with a spam filter?

Sparky

kearnsr wrote: »

Is this likely to get caught with a spam filter?

Depends on your (or the IT dept.) settings at the end of the day!

If you can get PM notifications then infraction notifications should get through.

godtabh

Spankeh wrote: »

Depends on your (or the IT dept.) settings at the end of the day!

If you can get PM notifications then infraction notifications should get through.

Was just wondering if this could come up as excuse for what ever reason for getting around a banning ie i never got the notice so shouldnt be banned or I only got 1 email not the other so this is only my first offence etc

seamus

kearnsr wrote: »

Was just wondering if this could come up as excuse for what ever reason for getting around a banning ie i never got the notice so shouldnt be banned or I only got 1 email not the other so this is only my first offence etc

PMs don't get caught by spam filters

godtabh

seamus wrote: »

PMs don't get caught by spam filters

That's true. So Whats the point of the email then? Does it not add a potential week link to the system in terms of running/maintaining the email system and the messing that could go on if emails aren't received?

Lump

Has anyone had problems with Cookies not updating properly? Since the upgrade boards isn't updating for me. I've cleared out my cookies etc but I have to refresh each page when I visit to get the latest forums etc!

seamus

kearnsr wrote: »

That's true. So Whats the point of the email then? Does it not add a potential week link to the system in terms of running/maintaining the email system and the messing that could go on if emails aren't received?

I don't think so. The email is an offshoot of the PM - if the user has chosen not to be notified of PMs by email, they won't know about the infraction notification.

humbert

Spankeh wrote: »

Yes, via email and PM

Ah, cool. Had visions of it becoming a way for mods to take a sneaky dig at a user that was pissing them off.

godtabh

seamus wrote: »

I don't think so. The email is an offshoot of the PM - if the user has chosen not to be notified of PMs by email, they won't know about the infraction notification.

I dont get notifications of pm recived but I can easily tell if I get a new pm ie 1 unread message in top right hand corner when I log on. I thought it would be as simple as that

godtabh

humbert wrote: »

Ah, cool. Had visions of it becoming a way for mods to take a sneaky dig at a user that was pissing them off.

Why would you think that?

seamus

humbert wrote: »

Ah, cool. Had visions of it becoming a way for mods to take a sneaky dig at a user that was pissing them off.

Nah, it's supposed to be quite open and transparent. I don't think the admins would be overly enamoured with any kind of secret "Things about this user we don't like" list that moderators could see.

Aside from the DPA issues, it removes the right to reply. There is a feature in vB called User Notes, which allows admins to add information about particular users, which is hidden from everyone including the user themselves.
IIRC there was a discussion on using it to note down bans for users, so a ban history coudl be reviewed, but it was a no-go because of the sneaky nature of it and the nightmare of policing it.

I dont get notifications of pm recived but I can easily tell if I get a new pm ie 1 unread message in top right hand corner when I log on. I thought it would be as simple as that

Yep, 'tis. It's just a normal PM in a standard format. The infraction is a separate note maintained on your profile, but the PM is a message from the mod as to why you got it. I can give you one now if you want to see how it works.

humbert

kearnsr wrote: »

Why would you think that?

Well because all mods are mean evil Nazis, of course

godtabh

seamus wrote: »

Yep, 'tis. It's just a normal PM in a standard format. The infraction is a separate note maintained on your profile, but the PM is a message from the mod as to why you got it. I can give you one now if you want to see how it works.

Yeah I'd like to see how it works so send me one*

as long as it doesnt go on my permeant record

humbert

seamus wrote: »

Nah, it's supposed to be quite open and transparent. I don't think the admins would be overly enamoured with any kind of secret "Things about this user we don't like" list that moderators could see.

Aside from the DPA issues, it removes the right to reply. There is a feature in vB called User Notes, which allows admins to add information about particular users, which is hidden from everyone including the user themselves.
IIRC there was a discussion on using it to note down bans for users, so a ban history coudl be reviewed, but it was a no-go because of the sneaky nature of it and the nightmare of policing it.

Admirable policy. Well thumbs up for the infraction system from me then.

godtabh

Ah man I just an infraction. Totally didnt deserve it. I'm so gona fight the power and bring this to feedback!

Didnt get an eamil but I think thats cause there was an old email account there and i prob didnt update it soon enough

muffler

Mr Magnolia wrote: »

Yellow/Red Cards, as someone put it.

That was me and I have a ton of them ready to be used.

Dont like this infraction thingy at all. Back to basics

seamus

It should also be noted that when an infraction is given for a post, the post gets marked with a red card (infraction) or yellow card (warning). As per the attached.

A thread is also started in another forum to discuss the infraction. Along with the rest of the system, that's in testing at the moment.

Mr Magnolia

muffler wrote: »

That was me and I have a ton of them ready to be used.

Dont like this infraction thingy at all. Back to basics

Rather partial to a reported post myself.

godtabh

muffler wrote: »

Dont like this infraction thingy at all. Back to basics

I think its a very good idea. If the rules can be sorted out and a fair system put in place and not abused then it could be great.

They way I see it happening would be very similar to the PP system.

break a law get x amunt of points. After y amount of points you get banned. After z amount of points you get site banned etc.

Points expire after a set amount of time.

If you feel the points were unjust you bring it to feedback/another forum and senior mods get to decide if it was unjust or what ever. if your case is thrown out you get double points.

May mean a lot of less crap in feedback

godtabh

seamus wrote: »

It should also be noted that when an infraction is given for a post, the post gets marked with a red card (infraction) or yellow card (warning). As per the attached.

A thread is also started in another forum to discuss the infraction. Along with the rest of the system, that's in testing at the moment.

I'm so getting picked on!

Do the Mods think its workable?

Gordon

Mr Magnolia wrote: »

Rather partial to a reported post myself.

With a cup of tea?

The all caps post de-capifier has been around for a year or two, since the last VB upgrade.

Terry

tom dunne wrote: »

I notice there is also a feature TO STOP YOU FROM SHOUTING.

Basically, if you post in all caps, vBulletin "fixes" it for you and changes the words to lower case.

Edit: Ok, that did work. It didn't work over on BG+RH. I is confused?????

DeVore wrote: »

It Only Works If Everything In The Thread Is Caps Afaik.... Then It Becomes Like This One

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

THAT'S KINDA KEWWL.

Edit: That didn't work for me.

Edit 2: Oh wait everything in the thread, I thought you said post.

tom dunne wrote: »

Aha.

THANK YOU DEVORE YOU ARE YOUR USUAL HELPFUL SELF.

Only works when you use the full reply option with the enhanced editor.

kearnsr wrote: »

Ah man I just an infraction. Totally didnt deserve it. I'm so gona fight the power and bring this to feedback!

Didnt get an eamil but I think thats cause there was an old email account there and i prob didnt update it soon enough

You have to have PM notifications set in a certain way. See attached pic.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/profile.php?do=editoptions

godtabh

Terry wrote: »

You have to have PM notifications set in a certain way. See attached pic.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/profile.php?do=editoptions

I thought the email notices was for spam so didnt sign up to it

Tar.Aldarion

DeVore wrote: »

It Only Works If Everything In The Thread Is Caps Afaik.... Then It Becomes Like This One

Ah yeah people, but that is not new to this upgrage.

Terry

I also like how the page no longer bounces back when you are editing a post and using formatting.
Eg. When using the quick edit on a long post, the post would reset to the top of the page after hitting ctrl + b.
That doesn't happen any more.