How to avoid paying a luas fine.

oclugg

If you don't have a ticket and an inspector gets on give your name and address in Irish. It is your right and they are oblidged by law to comply...they just haven't got around to dealing with it yet.

monkey tennis

A better way: Buy a damn ticket, you dirty hippie!

Hagar

oclugg wrote: »

If you don't have a ticket and an inspector gets on give your name and address in Irish. It is your right and they are oblidged by law to comply...they just haven't got around to dealing with it yet.

What will you do when he says "Céart go leor" and proceeds to write it down?

Could your minder or other responsible adult not just have bought you a ticket?

admiralofthefleet

yeah, just buy a bloody ticket. saves any hassle

cruibin

Walk!

raheny red

cruibin wrote: »

Walk!

Exactly, if you walk on when stopped they can't do a thing

Chucky the tree

What do you do when he just asks you how too spell it?

P_1

Chucky the tree wrote: »

What do you do when he just asks you how too spell it?

I suppose you reply Ni thuigim

sdanseo

oclugg wrote: »

If you don't have a ticket and an inspector gets on give your name and address in Irish. It is your right and they are oblidged by law to comply...they just haven't got around to dealing with it yet.

When you do this (and you probably won't, naturally) be sure to get a friend to video it, and post a link here. Should be very entertaining methinks.

Just don't do it at Busáras cos' they'll drag you into Store St

markpb

oclugg wrote: »

If you don't have a ticket and an inspector gets on give your name and address in Irish. It is your right and they are oblidged by law to comply...they just haven't got around to dealing with it yet.

Your name comes off whatever form of photo ID you (are compelled to) show them so that's not a problem. I guess your address could be another problem but they'd probably just ask you to write it for them.

On a similar note, I've seen gardai on foot and on bike show up at Luas stops when people are being spoken to about their tickets so there's always a chance you could get badly stung if you try to be an awkward ****.

Jay D

yeah keep saying such a solution to your 13 year old dick head friends who believe such **** talk.

I swear to God, this is a fine example of the retard anti authority shams present today in Dublin.

WoollyRedHat

Pass out and see what happens!

Or you could just buy a ticket, as the first person said

You dirty hippie!!

cruibin

cruibin wrote: »

Walk!

When I said walk I meant - if you are not going to pay for the service, use your legs instead to get you places.

eth0_

oclugg wrote: »

If you don't have a ticket and an inspector gets on give your name and address in Irish. It is your right and they are oblidged by law to comply...they just haven't got around to dealing with it yet.

A> I'm pretty sure this is bullsh*t

B> If it was true, the non-Irish inspectors would have a card with the details of travelling without a ticket printed in Irish

raheny red

cruibin wrote: »

When I said walk I meant - if you are not going to pay for the service, use your legs instead to get you places.

Oh right, ha

cailinoBAC

In Germany most of the trams/Ubahns don't have ticket controls, so loads of people never buy tickets, but of course there's a hefty fine if you get caught. I heard a story a few years ago, and I can't remember who from, so it's probably not true, but who cares, about two Irish students who got caught in Frankfurt (I think it was) and pretended that they only spoke Irish. They were brought along to the police station and an Irish interpreter was found, and when that happened they had to stop pretending.

As for the original assertion, what a load of rubbish.

lodgepole

cailinoBAC wrote: »

They were brought along to the police station and an Irish interpreter was found, and when that happened they had to stop pretending.

As for the original assertion, what a load of rubbish.

Don't **** with the German authorities.

And pay for your Luas ticket, don't be so cheap. We finally get a good, reliable and reasonably priced service and people still want to rip it off.

[Jackass]

Buy a skate board and a rope...you and your buddy go halves on a ticket while he goes inside holding one end of the rope and you stay outside standing on the skateboard holding the other end of the rope...that way you travel for half the price...F*ck the authoritys with their money grabbing rules!!

dub45

oclugg wrote: »

If you don't have a ticket and an inspector gets on give your name and address in Irish. It is your right and they are oblidged by law to comply...they just haven't got around to dealing with it yet.

You do realise that the people you expect to read this thrash are those who are subsidising your free trips by buying their tickets?

fiveone

dub45 wrote: »

You do realise that the people you expect to read this thrash are those who are subsidising your free trips by buying their tickets?

By you own choice - I refuse to pay on principle because the damn thing is so expensive. You're happy with the prices, you can foot the bill

dub45

lydonst wrote: »

By you own choice - I refuse to pay on principle because the damn thing is so expensive. You're happy with the prices, you can foot the bill

I presume you don't use the service then?

eth0_

lydonst wrote: »

By you own choice - I refuse to pay on principle because the damn thing is so expensive. You're happy with the prices, you can foot the bill

LOL!

I presume you use the bus then, or walk?
The luas is only expensive if you're using it in a lazy way, i.e. travelling only 2 or 3 stops.

I pay about 16 euro a week for unlimited luas travel, I think that's a bargain.

lodgepole

lydonst wrote: »

By you own choice - I refuse to pay on principle because the damn thing is so expensive. You're happy with the prices, you can foot the bill

It's 10c more than the bus, and it's faster and more comfortable. If you use a smartcard it's cheaper than the bus. You don't refuse to pay on principle, you refuse because you're able to.

punchdrunk

lydonst wrote: »

By you own choice - I refuse to pay on principle because the damn thing is so expensive. You're happy with the prices, you can foot the bill

god i wish we had national service,might sort you spongers out
you need a good kick up the arse TBH!

melekalikimaka

get on the luas,
sit at the VERY front
if an inspector hops on,just hop off
problem solved

whiskeyman

melekalikimaka wrote: »

get on the luas,
sit at the VERY front
if an inspector hops on,just hop off
problem solved

Not quite. They often leave an inspector on the platform to ask people that hop off on the stop the inspectors get on to check for possible evaders like you.
I've seen a good few people get stung with fines this way.

MrVostro

whiskeyman wrote: »

Not quite. They often leave an inspector on the platform to ask people that hop off on the stop the inspectors get on to check for possible evaders like you.
I've seen a good few people get stung with fines this way.

that happened to me last week. i got off the luas and an inspector stops me and asks for my ticket. i had one in my wallet but just told him i was in a hurry and walked off. he tried to stop me and i asked him did he really want to stop me walkin away by force. that was the end of that.

on avoiding fares though i reckon all you do is travel at peak times. then there is nomroom on the luas for inspectors to move at all.

whiskeyman

|Cookies wrote: »

with 3 "bodyguards"

Saw them turf off a bunch of around 8 drunk kids at Milltown last week (during mid-term). Those security guards were feckin huge!! :eek:They had to crouch down when walking down the tram! No one would dare give these lads any abuse!

Lockstep

I like the luas.
CLean,cheap,reliable and fast.

Try living in Galway, I'd give my right arm for a luas. Going to dublin is grand.

I wouldn't rip it off, as being a civic minded person, I'm going to pay for the service I'm using.

Also be careful with the "speaking Irish in foreign countries"
In Belgium I knew a few translators who were learning irish as they'd get paid more and not have to use it much. They can be called on

Borneo Fnctn

lydonst wrote: »

I refuse to pay on principle because the damn thing is so expensive.

Well then stay off the God Damned Luas then you moron.

dudara

|Cookies wrote: »

with 3 "bodyguards"

Saw this last Friday night when I was getting the Luas into town around 8pm. Security guards in bright yellow vests.

Veolia operate a good, safe, clean and reliable service in the form of the Luas, and while I wish it was a little cheaper, it is worth paying for.

skypeuser

maybe i am wrong , but buying a ticket will help a lot lol

Potential-Monke

oclugg wrote: »

If you don't have a ticket and an inspector gets on give your name and address in Irish. It is your right and they are oblidged by law to comply...they just haven't got around to dealing with it yet.

People said the same with the Gardai, but if you do something like this, the Gardai can be called, who is bounf to have someone who speaks Irish, then you're in the sheite!

po0k

Good to see the tax-break employer-employee travel ticket thing going ahead. Good effort to make public transport more practical and affordable.
It should be people's first choice in most urban travel situations.

markpb

Plenty of companies still don't offer it though which is pathetic. It should be possible to claim the tax back yourself instead of forcing people to go through their companies.

nedward

Eh, find someone who has a valid monthly or weekly pass, like a student, photocopy the pass and post it to Veolia. I forgot my pass once and did this.

that happened to me last week. i got off the luas and an inspector stops me and asks for my ticket. i had one in my wallet but just told him i was in a hurry and walked off. he tried to stop me and i asked him did he really want to stop me walkin away by force. that was the end of that.

Is it even legal to stop people who are on the platform and walking away from the Luas? I have a long commute in the mornings, I'm always rushing on to catch the DART and the last thing I need is someone asking me to get out my wallet on a crowded platform in Stephen's Green when I'm in a hurry. I've walked past several times unless they got insistant. I was on the Luas for 15 mins during which time they could have checked my ticket (always buy the weekly or monthly ticket) and I don't really appreciate having to waste more time showing my ticket after the journey. I suppose they have to operate like that now with so many people like the OP "refusing" to buy tickets :rolleyes:

I'm always shocked at how many people they catch given that it's very hard to get away with ticket evasion nowadays. Back in 2004 it was easy for people to just get off the Luas, but now they really close in on you so you can't get away. It makes me laugh how many people think it's their right to use the Luas for free. The 'trust' system will never work in Ireland. It's one thing to not buy a ticket the very odd time when you're flat broke but I don't understand people who use it all the time while refusing to pay 'on principle', and then have the nerve to complain about the price. It's more expensive cos there are so many people who don't pay, raising the price for everyone! I pay 13.80 for my weekly ticket and I don't think that's unreasonable for a fast, reliable service.

carlmango11

[quote=[Deleted User];54449075]It makes me laugh how many people think it's their right to use the Luas for free. The 'trust' system will never work in Ireland. It's one thing to not buy a ticket the very odd time when you're flat broke but I don't understand people who use it all the time while refusing to pay 'on principle', and then have the nerve to complain about the price. It's more expensive cos there are so many people who don't pay, raising the price for everyone! I pay 13.80 for my weekly ticket and I don't think that's unreasonable for a fast, reliable service.[/QUOTE]

You're so right!!! :D:D