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http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhmhkfideycw/

Hivemind187

What ... the ... fcuk?

"Mr Moore added many of the replicas had a clear barrel which showed fake bullets, terrifying if used in a hold-up."

That sentence doesnt even make sense. Further, any of these "pellet guns" which do sound extraordinarily like airsoft should be legal to own and to trade under the remit of the VCR defense unless someone was acting the plank.

Are there any sites in Antrim?

padmundo

I would imagine that the issue here is that they were selling crossbows which can kill and probably airguns too. Since the VCRA bill they will have to be seen to be cracking down on these.

It mentions "many of the replicas had a clear barrel which showed fake bullets" (he probably meant the magazine was clear not barrel, I assume) So they were probably airsoft guns being sold by an unauthorised/unregistered dealer. So again the VCRA bill would come into effect. I doubt we have much to worry about.

Hivemind187

padmundo wrote: »

I would imagine that the issue here is that they were selling crossbows which can kill and probably airguns too. Since the VCRA bill they will have to be seen to be cracking down on these.

It mentions "many of the replicas had a clear barrel which showed fake bullets" (he probably meant the magazine was clear not barrel, I assume) So they were probably airsoft guns being sold by an unauthorised/unregistered dealer. So again the VCRA bill would come into effect. I doubt we have much to worry about.

Agreed, but its the lack of information in the piece I find so grating. Its almost deliberately vague and certain consciously shocking. For example, drawing specific attention to the MP5 by name while being quite general about the functionality of the equipment.

I also believe that they intend for people to assume that all of the equipment is potentially lethal, which it is not. Crossbows and high powered airguns could be, but the airsoft kit that was amongst it, even at 4 joules or more is hardly likely to cause a fatality.

Extremely shoddy and deliberately inflammatory journalism yet again.

padmundo

Well these are the same people who printed "they were probably high on cocaine" without a shred of evidence about the two men who shot that cop in Dublin thus they completely undermined a perfectly good piece. Anyway I'm off topic... basically did you expect any less?

Hivemind187

padmundo wrote: »

Well these are the same people who printed "they were probably high on cocaine" without a shred of evidence about the two men who shot that cop in Dublin thus they completely undermined a perfectly good piece. Anyway I'm off topic... basically did you expect any less?

Having studied Journalism in college and dropped out due to massive irreversible disillusion ... no, I didnt. More's the pity.

ScumLord

The airsoft guns may not have been illegal but if cops are doing a planed raid they're going to take anything that even remotely looks illegal. From the looks of things this was black market stuff, which the paper decided to report differently even though they propably knew the facts full well.

Cuddlesworth

I don't see a problem, bad wording and a lack of details but just something that most will ignore.

Shiva

krazy_8s wrote: »

I don't see a problem, bad wording and a lack of details but just something that most will ignore.

Exactly. Only a few weeks back that same site had a ridiculous report quoting a customs officer talking rubbish. Zero impact.

padmundo

That was my general point they spout crap and it's not anything to actually worry about. It in no way effects our sport.

ambro25

Assuming the journo should have referred to mags instead of barrel, the only "clear mags with visible bullets" that I know of, are SIG 552 types.

Whereby I'm guessing at least some of the devices to which the article refers were airsoft SIG 552, most probably the Double Eagle el cheapo ones (200 fps with 0.12, or somesuch).

Given that I'm still awaiting delivery of my TM one, me somewhat worried, as I'd expect IE customs to keep an eye on those now

Hivemind187

ambro25 wrote: »

Assuming the journo should have referred to mags instead of barrel, the only "clear mags with visible bullets" that I know of, are SIG 552 types.

Whereby I'm guessing at least some of the devices to which the article refers were airsoft SIG 552, most probably the Double Eagle el cheapo ones (200 fps with 0.12, or somesuch).

Given that I'm still awaiting delivery of my TM one, me somewhat worried, as I'd expect IE customs to keep an eye on those now

Actually P90 and G36 standard mags both have visible dummy rounds, something I always thought aesthetically pleasing and politically worrying myself.