Any business school student interested in "Apprentice" competition?

bzisbz

Hi guys,

I am not joking here.

We have a marketing project which will take 3-4 weeks to design a promotional product and persuade the advertising agency and corporate client directly. We would like to build a small team with 6 people from business school to do the brain storming and call the clients in pair. At the end of day, 2 people will lose the competition and be fired from the team, there will be amount of cash allocated to the rest of team, and each individual gets 40%, 30%, 20%, 10% of it, plus the bonus from the 8% sale commission pool.

The amount of total cash prize will be 2k euro, and total sale figure will be either 0 or at least 200k in four weeks.

The clients will be those top blue-chip Irish companies, and we only want to get about ten of them to on board to sponsorship programme. We are not interested in sending student to small shops on the street.

This is a tough project which can not be done by normal full-time staff, and we are looking for innovative, highly self motivated person. If you can do this project, you will easy get a job in any advertising company when you graduate.

It must be great fun, anybody interested this, please page me your email address.

Page Me if you are interested.

Thanks

An Citeog

Forgive my scepticism but this sounds like a big fat scam! Who exactly are you and what media production company are you affiliated with? Basically what you're saying is that you want the "contestants" to design a product and seek venture capital/market the product, while you generously award them a cash prize of €2,000 plus whatever commission you decide to give them. What exactly are your "company" doing here and what happens with any left-over cash? Or are you just the guy who holds the camcorder?

bzisbz

An Citego, how wise man you are!

Should I disclose my trade secrets to the public which is fantastic to make sale 200,000 euro by four college students?

It is my thing to dispose those left-over cash after commission and 2,000 cash to participants. Why? This is my own idea, I investigated this idea for months, I spent lots of my time on talking with potential clients, and I put money in front to manufacture the product.

I only need six talented people to come on board to polish this idea to make it watertight, and then sell this product to our business clients.

Should I ask “hey, An Citego, my company is …, we have a great idea, which is …, our clients are …, just come, spend four weeks, no matter how can you contribute on the project, we give you salary plus 50% profit.” If you can do this, I go to work for you.

My company is a campus high-tech company, and not as dirty as what you thought. It is fine that you do not believe, but it might be an arbitrary decision to label a “Dirty rotten scam!” on somebody you do not know.

We like to get innovative people join us to work on the project, but we need get them sit in our office to talk the idea in stead of disclosing our innovation on the network.

bzisbz

By the way, we do not record any video during the competition. We do real business, not a TV programme.

An Citeog

Ok bzisbz, I edited the last little bit out just for you. I still don't believe you though! Here's where I take issue:

We would like to build a small team with 6 people from business school to do the brain storming and call the clients in pair. At the end of day, 2 people will lose the competition and be fired from the team

If it's not for a TV show, I don't see the point in this policy. You call it a team yet by its very nature, members are competing against each other for a bigger slice of the pie. Why not just conduct interviews and pick the 4 most suitable applicants and actually get them to work together?

At the end of day, 2 people will lose the competition and be fired from the team, there will be amount of cash allocated to the rest of team, and each individual gets 40%, 30%, 20%, 10% of it, plus the bonus from the 8% sale commission pool.

The amount of total cash prize will be 2k euro, and total sale figure will be either 0 or at least 200k in four weeks.

You're being deliberately vague and misleading here. Is this a "total" cash prize of €2,000 to be split between 4 people ie. €500 each for 4 weeks work?

The clients will be those top blue-chip Irish companies, and we only want to get about ten of them to on board to sponsorship programme.

Is it a sponsorship programme or are you trying to sell to these companies? €200,000 in four weeks for your super-duper secret product? Don't be so pessimistic!

This is a tough project which can not be done by normal full-time staff

Qualified full-time staff with experience in this field can't do the project? Care to explain or are you just looking for cheap labour?

If you can do this project, you will easy get a job in any advertising company when you graduate.

By the sound of things, if you can complete this project, you'll get fúck all reward. 8% of your estimated €200,000 on top of the €2,000 is €18,000. I'm sure you've done your homework, so how much would "any advertising company" charge for the same services?

I'm not the only one that doesn't believe you though! http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055161977

If this is such a legitimate idea, why is it that you opened an account on boards to recruit contestants rather than going through the university itself? Quite strange, seeing as:

My company is a campus high-tech company, and not as dirty as what you thought.

If you don't like my post, report it!

ghostdancer

yeah, the fact that your offer doesn't really stand up to any proper logic doesn't bode too well for it in the first place, full of holes. not to appear xenophobic or anything, but the fact that english doesn't seem to be your 1st language (or else you're just really bad at grammar and spelling) doesn't fill me with hope either. especially for someone involved in recruitment of personnel. not that I actually believe you work for an actual company either.
Perhaps if you bothered to name your company it mightn't seem like such a complete scam.

basically your proposal is:

Hi, I want 6 students to do marketing work for my company for a few weeks. 2 of you will be fired with no pay whatsoever.
the other 4 will divide up 2000 between you in different amounts that I see fit. The most you will possibly make from this is 500 for your several weeks work. possibly nothing.
you may also get a percentage of 8% of our "commission pool", which will either be 200,000, or 0, depending on whether or not you succeed in getting some "top blue chip companies" on board.
by the way, we're not gonig to tell you who we are, where the work is, what exactly you do, or when you do it. you'll have to "page me" to find out.


forgive me if this is incorrect, but half of your posts i can't even understand what you're actually trying to say.

this has dodginess written all over it.

name your "company" and you might at least have some credibility.

An Citeog

Bzisbz, you haven't given up already have you? They're just a few questions I have, as a sceptical yet innovative business student. Shouldn't be too difficult to answer if you are actually legit rather than trying to scam somebody. I see your last activity on boards is listed as today at 21:05. With potential sales of €200,000 in the first month and with it being such a wonderful opportunity for "contestants", I'm sure you can easily defend the legitimacy of your project. If you've given up this easily, I don't hold much hope for the future success of whatever top secret device you're trying to launch!

robby^5

Wow this is even better than that time a Nigerian Prince deposited 200k into my account, and all he needed was all my bank details!

Darz0re

I'd be interested in being competely taken advantage of for a number of weeks for no payment (well for a chance of that thin slice of 2000 Euro)

but i would life some reassurances... just so i know i'm not being sold to slavery!! you understand dont you?

could i pm you my bank details.. and you could deposit the 2000E in my account and i'll give it back at the end! promise!
or better yet.. just paypal it to me

much love and trust and respect,

Dara.

Winters

I am very interested in this offer bzisbz. Can you please PM me more details and your address so I can contact you further.

bzisbz

GhostDancer,
You are right, English is not my first language. It is fine if you only like work for Irish or other English speaking people. No need judge something good or bad just by its language.

An Citeog
I am not doing a debate contest with you.
It is so easy to cause confusion to discuss this topic here. I have contacted with business school again, and will pass the message through them if they can process it quickly. In the mean time, I met some clients myself, no need bother you guys if it is not necessary.

Believe or not, I got my business degree better than you.

Robby^
You are genius. A guy, who has an office in the office building near the university, comes your DCU forum, arranges a meet with students in his office, and then does the Nigerian scam?
Wake up! The world is not that horrible!

Thedara
If four students spend four weeks part-timely, say 2-3 hours a day, even without commission, 2000 euro wage is not too bad.
The product is for blue-chip companies in Ireland, the contestant has to go out to visit them. This is not a work can be done by slave or cheap labor.
At the end of day, if no sale, we will get nothing, and lose all expenses, but still have to pay out 2,000 to students.

bzisbz

I lost all my confidence on you guys here. People are so scared, do they only love at joking at something, but do nothing. Will they take our innovation spread everywhere? Will they cry if bank clients reject their presentation and push them out of office?

If you do not like foreigner, do not like competition, scared of whatever scam or robbery, please stay at your home. It is much better to report police or your school if you are concerned on this topic.

No further comment will be given out. If you are interested, please be serious, page me your background, I will pick suitable candidates to meet in our office.

gizmo

Right, shows over folks...

bzisbz has failed to give any concrete details on the company he works for, was extremely vague in all the wrong ways and just appears totally dodgy overall. He has also strangely said that his "office building near the university" which is rather odd given that he said they were right beside UCD on their forums. Either way, bye bye.