Ply Lining

jgoodman05

Probably not the right forum but I need to ply line a van and wondered if anyone knows of any online guides - is it best to rivet, screw etc. - any info appreciated, Cheers

peasant

Moved to motors.


I'd think that self tapping screws (dipped in some rust protection like waxoil) would probably be easiest

colm_mcm

heard of a carpenter who bought a new Transit earlier in the year, cut the panels out down to the millimetre, did a lovely job around the wheel arches, screwed the whole lot in.
It was only when he got out of the van and spotted the hedgehog effect of hundreds of self tapping screws that he realised he should have got it professionally lined - or at least used shorter screws. one respray later and the van was good as new (ish)

cormie

lol. Would be interested for info on this too.

I'd like a custom bulk head myself. I find myself hopping into the back from the front quite a bit without the bulkhead (if I'm in a tight alley or whatever) so I'd like a removable bulk-head, I'm thinking some 6ft pieces of timber on a littler roller that I can roll across to get access to the back.. but then, I'd also like to be able to remove one and use it for a little ramp for the back of the van.

Why must I always confuse things

I even have a little song about Ply Lining, I sing it along to the tune of "Dry lightning" by Bruce Springsteen whenever I start thinking about bulk heads and stuff

colm_mcm

Towing Equipment do a nice job,

01 4566780

bazz26

A bit OT, appologies to the OP.

I'm moving house this weekend and have the privilage of hiring a Transit LWB Semi Hi Roof for the weekend. I have driven vans before ie. Hiace, Transporter, but this thing is really agricultural imo. Its a 2007 model but not the newer type and that 2.4 diesel needs the **** reved out of it to get it moving even with an empty load bay. I also find the driving position a bit uncomfortable and there is nowhere to put your left foot when your not using the clutch. I would not be able to take it on a long journey to be honest yet I look around and these Transits are everywhere so obviously they are liked. Practicality and usefulness rule I guess.

cormie

here's a copy of a thread I just put in the DIY section: I think this would be a good option for anyone with a van but I'm hoping to get this done asap so if anyone here can offer advice, offer away:)

Hi,
I want to fit some kind of bulkhead (divider) between the passenger/driver area and the cargo area of my Ford Transit LWB High Roof van. The thing is, I'd like it in 2 pieces and on some kind of roller mechanism so that if need be, I can roll it to one side to allow me to hop in the back from the front (for situations where I'm in a tight alley way and can't open the doors for example).

I'd then also like it to act as a ramp:o So I'd like to be able to remove preferably bigger of the two pieces of the bulkhead and use it as a 6ft (height on the inside) ramp if I need to lift pianos/cookers etc up into the back of the van. This would need to be strong enough for a piano and 2-4 guys without the risk of us all falling through it!

Here's my artists impression:D


Would appreciate any feedback on how I could go about this and what material I should use and the cost of 2 sheets about 750x1800mm each:)

R.O.R

I use Van Equip for all my Vans (www.vanequip.ie). Should be about €300 for standard ply-lining with boxed arches.

Cornie - they can also usually come up solutions to any requirement you may have, but it probably won't be cheap. Might be worth taking your drawing and popping in to them to get a quote.

Del2005

My brother in law ply lined his own van, just used no more nails or similar on the back of all the panels and they haven't moved. But as I'm always told, measure twice cut once. And for extra safety make sure the panels fit before gluing them in.

Edit.
Was talking to brother in law and he did use screws as well as glue

cormie

Turns out my above idea was not advised by a van fitter (surprise surprise) but the guy is fitting a ply bulk head that will fold down from top to botton for €150 which is pretty good I think considering it'll be done professionally and it was the price I was willing to pay for it:)

By the way, since it's a thread on ply lining, he said to line the whole van would be €400, without the floor.

benny03

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stratos

It's easy to do yourself. The hardest bit is the bulkhead.
Make it from cardboard first, then scribe it to inch ply.
I wouldn't advise a fold down section. I don't know if you have ever seen a tool box come flying through a partition after a head on.
Thats why you should use inch on the bulkhead. A fold down section makes it weak. Build in a perspex window backed up with a heavy wire grill. May sound a bit stupid better than being hit in the back of the head by your cargo.
Half inch ply will do for the floor. Use silicon to stick it down on the ridges (don't drill holes in the floor,it will allow water ingress and you may hit a fuel/brake line). The uprights can then be self tapped. Don't forget to add wiring for extra lights etc.
If sections of timber meet, silicon them as it will stop squeeking.
Another broblem may be condensation as the natural venting of the vehicle may now be obstructed by the new timber box, adding white sheet foam to the roof stuck on with spray foam helps.
One last thing if the van has a sliding side door the rail with the wheel runner bracket will probably meet your new bulkhead. a good place to fit a hasp and a padlock which can be locked from the inside, extra security.
Remember if your van stops suddenly Your cargo might not.

alanclarke1975

Hi

I know this is a bit cheeky - but I am closing down my Ply Lining business and have some Kits ready to go in DIY format. I mostly have Volkswagen and Ford Transit kits left. Some with the Hexagrip non slip floor.

Pics and details are on www.amcautos.ie

For example of price - LWB Transit kit with non slip floor is €290 including VAT. Kit comes with everything you need including screws and instructions.

The kits are all cut on a CNC and are millimeter perfect.

Alan

cormie

I need to get the floor of my transit re-lined, the factory fitted one has seen better days. The floor in my luton, build by alloy-bodies in the UK is pretty decent and I've been told it's "phenolic plywood". Rang vanequip.ie who are now towing equipment it seems and was quoted 190+ vat for regular ply for just the floor. Got a quote of 131+ vat for an 8x4 (12mm) sheet of bs1088 Marine Ply off Wickham.ie (that's just one sheet!) so that's probably top quality ply. I'd say Phenolic is what I'm after and is probably between both and right in what I need it for.

The post I made above where I got the bulk head done, it was done by a crowd here: http://g.co/maps/bhuav they were good to deal with so I wouldn't mind going with them again but I'm not sure they are still around and can't find any info online.

Alan, do you have any of the ply I'm after left over? Is it available in non slip too? If anyone knows of anyone who can supply and fit (or just fit if I get it myself) a phenolic floor in a LWB transit, please let me know. Just to note also, there are cargo hooks in the floor already so these will need to be cut around. I think 12mm is the size they use for floor.

cormie

Strahan.ie prices:

Phenolic:
10x5 18mm finnish, rigatex, 122.80 inc
10x512mm - rigatex, 104 inc vat
8x4, 47.36inc 18mm - Chinese
8x4, 34.75inc 12mm - Chinese


marine - 8x4, 18mm 52.72inc

cormie

Got a quote of 325+Vat for Wisa-deck from http://www.vanconversions.ie/ply-lining.html this is 18mm phenolic I think and that's retaining the floor hooks I already have in the van.