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pronunciation pet hate

  • 02-10-2007 11:43pm
    #1
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    I'm just watching Oireachtas Report on RTÉ One and it's showing a clip of Joan Burton speaking, during which she kept pronouncing 'modern' as if it was spelt 'mod-rin'.

    It got me thinking about pet hates in terms of pronunciation and I thought I'd ask if people had their own.

    For me it's one thing if the pronunciation is different but logical (like they difference between the pronunciation of 'route' by Americans and British or Irish people or the way many people pronounce 'vehicle' with an emphasis on the 'eh' rather than the 've'), but it's a whole other thing when it's pronounced nothing like it's spelled (as above).

    Any others?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Nuke-u-lar!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭vektarman


    Carlsburg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    How many do you want!!!!

    Border.... pron. Bawder
    Carvery.. pron. Cavvery

    Fás..pron Foss

    Fine Gael.. pron Fyne Gael

    Lotto ..pron Lottho

    Get.. pron geh..Miriam O'Callaghan.

    Get it.. pron gerrih.. most working class Dubliners.

    France.. pron Fraaaaance..Donal Lenihan on TV3

    Left instead of "let" as in "he left him go" Most people from Cork & Kerry

    Waterford pron Waterford that plonker on the GAA results RTE

    Human pron yooman .... Joe Duffy

    Money pron Munny.. Mary O'Rourke...............

    ad infinitum...................


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    Millons

    My old history teach used to talk about the I.R.AH.

    Slightly OT, but I hate "turned around" as in "Anto turned around and asked decco what he was talking about. Decco turned round and told Anto to.." etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭musiknonstop


    espresso pronounced as eXpresso


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,021 ✭✭✭xabi


    It hapens alot on boards - thought and taught getting mixed up.

    On radio and TV anything begining with TH - Thailand getting pronounced thighland, Thompson = thumbson.

    X.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    tbh wrote: »
    Slightly OT, but I hate "turned around" as in "Anto turned around and asked decco what he was talking about. Decco turned round and told Anto to.." etc.
    lol yeah, they must have been quite dizzy by the end of the anecdote.

    Similarly I dislike people ending sentences with "but".
    It leaves you hanging a bit if you're not used to it... "eeh, but what?" - "nope that's it" - "oh"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 662 ✭✭✭JæKæ


    People in munster often stress the wrong syllable of a word eg.
    Cement - Ce-ment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,534 ✭✭✭FruitLover


    One that crops up this time of year is people pronouncing Stephen's Day as Stephen's's Day. WTF?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    FruitLover wrote: »
    One that crops up this time of year is people pronouncing Stephen's Day as Stephen's's Day. WTF?
    People I work with pronounce "Texts" as "Texts's". WRECKS my head.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,055 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    JæKæ wrote: »
    People in munster often stress the wrong syllable of a word eg.
    Cement - Ce-ment
    ....and 'committee' as 'comma - tee'.

    My own pet pronounciation hate is when Dorset Street is pronounced as 'DorSETT' street! :(

    It should rhyme with corset. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 662 ✭✭✭JæKæ


    ....and 'committee' as 'comma - tee'.

    My own pet pronounciation hate is when Dorset Street is pronounced as 'DorSETT' street! :(

    It should rhyme with corset. ;)

    And when the English put their pronunciation on Irish names, and before we know it, it's Tim Cay-hill


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,055 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Beaumont pronounced as Beaumount. :(

    Ashbourne pronounced as Ashburn. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 Taradusk


    Theeseach = Taoiseach
    Thanaiste = Tánaiste:D

    (RTE Special)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    JæKæ wrote: »
    And when the English put their pronunciation on Irish names, and before we know it, it's Tim Cay-hill
    and doherty as dock-her-tee


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Taradusk wrote: »
    Theeseach = Taoiseach
    Thanaiste = Tánaiste:D

    (RTE Special)


    What's wrong with that???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 glasgowspremier


    I'm surprised nobody has yet mentioned Gerry Ryan, the world's biggest expert on absolutely everything, who pronounces paedophile as pay-doh-feel.

    Or maybe he's right and the rest of us have it wrong. Any classical Greek scholars out there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,055 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    the world's biggest expert on absolutely everything, who pronounces paedophile as pay-doh-feel
    That just reminds me (althought not pronounciation related) of all those media people who constantly refer to 'sexual abuse' as 'sex abuse'. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭BendiBus


    There's a documentary on Channel 4 at the moment about WW3 almost starting in 1983.

    The bloody woman narrating it is using the word nucular every few seconds. It is driving me so mad I've stopped watching and come here to vent my spleen instead :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭Mweelrea


    JæKæ wrote: »
    And when the English put their pronunciation on Irish names, and before we know it, it's Tim Cay-hill

    dont forget keogh pronounced "key oh"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    I'm surprised nobody has yet mentioned Gerry Ryan, the world's biggest expert on absolutely everything, who pronounces paedophile as pay-doh-feel.

    Or maybe he's right and the rest of us have it wrong. Any classical Greek scholars out there?

    Actually he is right, but the other "Pee-doh feel" is also right.

    Nothing to do with classical greek,it's a latin derivation

    remember the Latin grammar !ae! as in Mensae can be pronounced either

    "Men-say" or "menss-eye.

    there ya go now:D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,327 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    The mispronunciation of 'would HAVE' has a great deal to answer for.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,327 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    ....and 'committee' as 'comma - tee'.

    My own pet pronounciation hate is when Dorset Street is pronounced as 'DorSETT' street! :(

    It should rhyme with corset. ;)

    Only culchies and southsiders say Dorset to rhyme with corset ;) - people who live there say Door-SETT.

    I knew a man once who used to say 'Rah-henny' for Raheny. He was probably close to the original pronunciation, though I doubt he was quite that old.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    I knew a fella who always called "Phibsboro" "Fizzboro"

    who called "Chapelizod" "Chapelizard"

    who called "Blanchardstown" "Blancherstown"

    who called "Rathfarnham" "Rathfarm"

    who called "Sandyford" ""Samford"

    who called"Lisbon" "Lisburn"

    who called "Latvia" "Latua"

    who called "Tesco" "Texaco"


    Fcuker nearly put me into a mad house.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 7,396 Mod ✭✭✭✭**Timbuk2**


    People who don't say vee-ic-le but instead veh-hickle (yes I know its spelt that way)

    Its more common than you think it is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,529 ✭✭✭TJJP


    Not English of course, but Kyoto (Kyo-to) as key-yoto or kai-oto irks me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,905 ✭✭✭Aard


    espresso pronounced as eXpresso
    This is only irritating when the speaker is a native English-speaker. I forgive foreigners, as in French -the home of coffee- it is spelled with an "x". Although the fact that they call it just "un café" makes this somewhat redundant.

    I don't mind different accents affecting how words are pronounced, such as most inner city Dublin accents dropping final "t"; it's all part of sound change. What *does* get my goat, however, is -as has been mentioned previously- when people mispronounce things based on how they're spelled. The only example that comes to mind is the word "definitely" when spoken by some inner city Dubs: [,dE.fIn"aI.tli], which would rhyme with "nightly".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    What's wrong with that???

    Everything.

    There is no phoneme in Gaeilge which even closely corresponds to the "th" phoneme in English.

    I hate people who either can't pronounce "th", or those who hyper-correct most "t" sounds to be pronounced as a "th".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 294 ✭✭Caveat


    Yep.

    Like in Thigh-land which I find fantastically annoying.

    Also, ek-cetera and pacifically (for specifically)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 489 ✭✭derek27


    Pronunciation being spelt pronounciation <-- not an English word.

    http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/pronounciation.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Binka


    or...

    children pronounced as chidren

    or...

    Gerry Ryan pronouncing Portugal as Portagul


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭balon


    Sangwidges and Janguary


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,214 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    George Hamilton saying sikth instead of sixth. My other half saying mellingitis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,318 ✭✭✭Poochie05


    Ontroprenoower - I know it's a foreign word but it's not that difficult. There's an add on the radio for some ethnic entrepreneurship awards and it is mispronounced every time (which is lots of times). You'd think if they had to say it so often they'd at least find out how to pronounce it. And don't get me started on the Newstalk presenter who puts the emphasis on the middle bit - onTROPenoower :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Slow coach wrote: »
    George Hamilton saying sikth instead of sixth. My other half saying mellingitis.


    She must be a true Dub??

    The true Dub usually throws in the "L" instead of 'N'

    As in "Where did you go on your holidays last year??

    Oh we were in "Telleriffe"!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,214 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    She must be a true Dub??

    She is. North Inner city. Despite a Trinners' degree, she pronounces a lot of things the same way as her mother.

    A package of Crip.
    Chimley
    Window still. (I'm wincing while typing :o)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,905 ✭✭✭Aard


    That must be really frustrating, Slow Coach. Those little things would drive me mad. Next time she says it, just say, "You mean chimney, right?" and see what reaction you get; she may not notice that she's doing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,833 ✭✭✭niceonetom


    irish people who pronounce chicago as shi-car-go annoy me.

    americans who pronounce anything ending with ing as if it ends with een. "e.g. i was feeleen, like, ok n stuff". they're the same ones who usually intonate up at the end of every sentence, as if asking a question. the fools.

    i like some mispronunciations though. i finds dubs who say "yizzer" for your quaintly charming, though it's hard to take them too seriously.

    i have singaporean cousins who have perfect engish, but with many strange 'singlish' characteristics: contra-bute for con-trib-ute is one that offends me as it shows a lack of understanding of how that word is constructed.

    if you say "would of" to me you will forever be thought of as an idiot. sorry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Aard wrote: »
    That must be really frustrating, Slow Coach. Those little things would drive me mad. Next time she says it, just say, "You mean chimney, right?" and see what reaction you get; she may not notice that she's doing it.


    heh heh ....Not a chance in hell I would say, better chance of snow in Aurgust;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,214 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Aard wrote: »
    That must be really frustrating, Slow Coach. Those little things would drive me mad. Next time she says it, just say, "You mean chimney, right?" and see what reaction you get; she may not notice that she's doing it.

    I wince every time she says it. What's more she has the kids saying it, too. :mad:

    Yes, I correct it every single time. Even in company. :D So much so that if she's about to say one of "her" words in company she checks herself and tries to say it right. Mission accomplished. :p

    I have to admit to one or two bad ones myself, like everton instead of everything. :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭Hugh_C


    ....and 'committee' as 'comma - tee'.

    My own pet pronounciation hate is when Dorset Street is pronounced as 'DorSETT' street! :(

    It should rhyme with corset. ;)


    Wrong.

    People who live on Dorset ST pronounce it DorSETT Street. I imagine they're right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,055 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Hugh_C wrote: »
    Wrong.

    People who live on Dorset ST pronounce it DorSETT Street. I imagine they're right.
    It was named after the Earl of Dorset, not the Earl of DorSETT.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭IanCurtis


    Left instead of "let" as in "he left him go" Most people from Cork & Kerry

    What's wrong with saying "he let him go"? :confused:

    PS Anyone who says "DORset street" should be kicked out of the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭Hugh_C


    obl wrote: »
    I hate people who either can't pronounce "th", or those who hyper-correct most "t" sounds to be pronounced as a "th".

    you clearly have issues ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭Hugh_C


    It was named after the Earl of Dorset, not the Earl of DorSETT.

    Doesn't matter where the fecker was from, north inner city inhabitants have modified it for their own purposes and DorSETT Street it is, and always will be. Except of course to southsiders who rarely venture over, except as a minor inconvenience on their way to the Airport or a yummy plate of prawn sandwiches at The Creauker.

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    IanCurtis wrote: »
    Left instead of "let" as in "he left him go" Most people from Cork & Kerry

    What's wrong with saying "he let him go"? :confused:

    PS Anyone who says "DORset street" should be kicked out of the country.

    Nothing at all Ian nothing at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Brian


    Committee, film, advertisement, worm, Corolla. Cork people.


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