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Galaxy 17 74West - US Feeds

  • 01-10-2007 1:19pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭


    In the past few weeks there have been reports from UK (feedhunters group) on a 1.2M of analogue feeds showing up on Galaxy 17 74W. As it's way out of footprint, it's probably a result of some weird sidelobe on the transmit antenna, so very difficult to predict reception, but interesting nonetheless if anyone has any luck with it.

    On a 1.2M I can barely make out a bump for the digital transponder on 11733, H but I reckon the signal is being attenuated by trees in the way. No line-of-sight from the 2.4M unfortunately.

    74wHH.JPG

    Reported Feeds:
    11.740 V Tp 2-K Aud 6.20MHz. feed, American football, West Virginia v East Carolina.
    11.820 V Tp 6-K Aud 6.20MHz. feed, talking head to camera.
    11800 H. 6.2MHz audio. "abc 5" testcard.
    11.882 H 6.2MHz audio, colour bars / tone.
    11.840 H 6.2MHz audio, feed


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭Zaphod


    Threshold extension, sparklies and crackling audio - it's the old days back again :D

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Wow!

    However a 2m dish on a 15m high mast to get over the house to the west might need a lot of concrete and planinng permission.

    In Limerick it's only an elevation of 6.5 degrees! In UK only 2 or 3 degrees elevation.

    Are we sure this is 74W?

    I had thought that anything less than 10 degree elevation that you needed to be on very high site to avoid "ground noise".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭weehamster


    Wow indeed. :eek:
    I've given up on analogue feed's YEARS ago.
    Heres the KU footprint for N.America
    G-17@74W-NAKV.jpg
    This is very interesting indeed, but don't be surprised because if a bloke in Argentina can pick up Sky News on Astra 2 (though with a 5m dish) then you'll never know.

    Maybe its the new satellite being more powerful than the others around it , its just enough to reach us or maybe the downlink antenna is shaped slightly different or I'll even but my neck out and say there could have been a slight damage on the antenna shape that could have occurred during or after launch....

    Anyway, good find if its true. :D

    P.S. I think its says WPSU TV


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭Zaphod


    watty wrote: »
    In Limerick it's only an elevation of 6.5 degrees! In UK only 2 or 3 degrees elevation.

    Not bad for a 1.2M dish, although in fairness, the original sighting in the UK was a bigger effort, considering the lower elevation as you go east. The lowest possible down here is 62East at 2.4 degrees, but the signal tends to fluctuate a bit. I think someone here posted about reception of 64E at ~1 degree sometime back.
    watty wrote:
    Are we sure this is 74W?
    Yes - I saw a testcard for Galaxy 17 at one point, but didn't have enough time to tape it. The feeds correspond to those reported in the US, so it appears to be a sidelobe on the sat, rather than some special europe beam, helped by the fact that the sat is new and operating at max power.
    watty wrote:
    I had thought that anything less than 10 degree elevation that you needed to be on very high site to avoid "ground noise".
    No, not really until you hit the 2 degree mark. Avoiding trees and hills is a bigger problem.

    weehamster wrote: »
    Maybe its the new satellite being more powerful than the others around it , its just enough to reach us or maybe the downlink antenna is shaped slightly different or I'll even but my neck out and say there could have been a slight damage on the antenna shape that could have occurred during or after launch....
    Yeah, that's what I reckon too : high power + dodgy transmit antenna!
    P.S. I think its says WPSU TV
    Right again - all 4 feeds were for college football, including WPSU TV. Reception is better than the pic above suggests. This is because it was originally recorded as NTSC to a multi-standard VCR, then played back and converted to PAL and sent over 20M of coax to a PC with a USB PAL tuner. Image quality suffered a little along the way :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,148 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    Really interesting stuff here guys. Wish I had a large dish suitable for playing with this!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭Zaphod


    A little bit of tweaking has upped the signal strength. Most activity at weekends with sports coverage.

    Mississippi State College Football.

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    Ads are also shown. This TP also carried morse code/RTTY data on 7.02Mhz.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 rd100


    Hi there can you give me the web address of the feed hunts forum you seen this on or pm it to me please thanks.
    Zaphod wrote: »
    In the past few weeks there have been reports from UK (feedhunters group) on a 1.2M of analogue feeds showing up on Galaxy 17 74W. As it's way out of footprint, it's probably a result of some weird sidelobe on the transmit antenna, so very difficult to predict reception, but interesting nonetheless if anyone has any luck with it.

    On a 1.2M I can barely make out a bump for the digital transponder on 11733, H but I reckon the signal is being attenuated by trees in the way. No line-of-sight from the 2.4M unfortunately.

    74wHH.JPG

    Reported Feeds:
    11.740 V Tp 2-K Aud 6.20MHz. feed, American football, West Virginia v East Carolina.
    11.820 V Tp 6-K Aud 6.20MHz. feed, talking head to camera.
    11800 H. 6.2MHz audio. "abc 5" testcard.
    11.882 H 6.2MHz audio, colour bars / tone.
    11.840 H 6.2MHz audio, feed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭pbirney


    rd100 wrote: »
    Hi there can you give me the web address of the feed hunts forum you seen this on or pm it to me please thanks.

    I think this is the group Zaphod was referring to: http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/feedhunters/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭Zaphod


    Yeah, the Yahoo group above 'Feedhunters'. Some of the info may also have been posted on the backup group on Google 'Feedhunter' - note no 's'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 rd100


    ok thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭Zaphod


    Some few weeks back, Horizons 2 was launched and slotted into 74W. At that time, Intelsat put in a request to the FCC (attached) to have Galaxy 17 shifted off to the 91W. They've recently put in a second request to boot it on to 123W - which is where NORAD tracking puts it. So I was sure that was the end to the fun with analog feeds - what were the chances that Horizons 2 would also have a weird sidelobe? Kept an eye out on the spectrum analyzer for an spikes coming from Horizon 2, and back in action last night.



    MPEG compression really hates sparklies!


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