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Could someone review these for me please?

  • 24-09-2007 3:15pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭


    So I'm just back from america, all excited about getting back into the poker. Only problem is I cant win to save my life. I can't tell if I'm just running bad or if I suck at poker. I'd appreciate it if people could have a look at these please. Sorry I can't convert them. I cant really remember specific reads since I played them in different sessions over the past week or so. Thanks.

    Hand 1)

    Table Fluorine 04 6-max (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Total number of active players : 6
    Seat 1: livo ( $178.15 )
    Seat 2: KebabKungen ( $99.50 )
    Seat 3: maccardo ( $98.87 )
    Seat 4: Okkepoker ( $107.65 )
    Seat 5: billCosby ( $105.40 )
    Seat 6: duckyfuzz ( $100 )
    Okkepoker posts small blind [$0.50]
    billCosby posts big blind [$1]
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to duckyfuzz [ Kh, Kd ]
    duckyfuzz raises to [$3.50]
    livo folds
    KebabKungen folds
    maccardo calls [$3.50]
    Okkepoker calls [$3]
    billCosby folds
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, 7s, 8d ]
    Okkepoker checks
    duckyfuzz bets [$8.50]
    maccardo raises to [$17]
    Okkepoker folds
    duckyfuzz calls [$8.50]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ]
    duckyfuzz checks
    maccardo bets [$30]
    duckyfuzz calls [$30]
    ** Dealing River ** [ 7c ]
    duckyfuzz ???

    He has about $48 left. c/c? c/f?


    ***************************************

    Hand 2)

    Villan is 70/7 over 30


    Table Fluorine 6-max (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Total number of active players : 5
    Seat 1: rosswrx ( $69.05 )
    Seat 2: vd1 ( $157.66 )
    Seat 3: ahomake ( $106.95 )
    Seat 4: MICHALIS ( $92.30 )
    Seat 5: ocarina ( $126.45 )
    Seat 6: duckyfuzz ( $109.35 )
    MICHALIS posts small blind [$0.50]
    duckyfuzz posts big blind [$1]
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to duckyfuzz [ Qh, Qd ]
    rosswrx calls [$1]
    vd1 folds
    ahomake folds
    MICHALIS calls [$0.50]
    duckyfuzz raises to [$4]
    rosswrx calls [$3]
    MICHALIS calls [$3]
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, 7d, 6d ]
    MICHALIS checks
    duckyfuzz bets [$10]
    rosswrx calls [$10]
    MICHALIS goes all-in
    MICHALIS raises to [$88.30]
    duckyfuzz ???

    call or fold? I cover him.

    ******************************************

    Hand 3)

    He's 40/11/2


    Table Fluorine 07 6-max (Real Money)
    Seat 2 is the button
    Total number of active players : 6
    Seat 1: BAUZINHO ( $84.80 )
    Seat 2: max58 ( $106.95 )
    Seat 3: duckyfuzz ( $152 )
    Seat 4: Frankieboy ( $100.32 )
    Seat 5: JEngberg ( $98 )
    Seat 6: SV17 ( $73.20 )
    duckyfuzz posts small blind [$0.50]
    Frankieboy posts big blind [$1]
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to duckyfuzz [ 9d, Td ]
    JEngberg calls [$1]
    SV17 folds
    BAUZINHO folds
    max58 folds
    duckyfuzz calls [$0.50]
    Frankieboy checks
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 2d, 7d ]
    duckyfuzz bets [$3]
    Frankieboy calls [$3]
    JEngberg calls [$3]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
    duckyfuzz bets [$8]
    Frankieboy folds
    JEngberg calls [$8]
    ** Dealing River ** [ Tc ]
    duckyfuzz bets [$15]
    JEngberg raises to [$43]
    duckyfuzz ???

    I think I'm beat but can I fold?

    ***********************************************

    Hand 4)

    SV17 is 51/12


    Table Fluorine 13 6-max (Real Money)
    Seat 6 is the button
    Total number of active players : 6
    Seat 1: Anne69 ( $95.15 )
    Seat 2: dumpy1 ( $54.25 )
    Seat 3: duckyfuzz ( $108 )
    Seat 4: redswiss27 ( $120.10 )
    Seat 5: paraiba ( $50 )
    Seat 6: SV17 ( $134.85 )
    Anne69 posts small blind [$0.50]
    paraiba posts big blind [$1]
    dumpy1 posts big blind [$1]
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to duckyfuzz [ Ah, Qs ]
    duckyfuzz raises to [$4.50]
    redswiss27 folds
    paraiba calls [$3.50]
    SV17 calls [$4.50]
    Anne69 folds
    dumpy1 folds
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 3h, Ac, 4d ]
    duckyfuzz bets [$10]
    paraiba folds
    SV17 raises to [$20]
    duckyfuzz calls [$10]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ]
    duckyfuzz checks
    SV17 bets [$30]
    duckyfuzz calls [$30]
    ** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
    duckyfuzz checks
    SV17 bets [$40]
    duckyfuzz folds

    OK considering the turn card?

    *****************************************

    Hand 5)

    He's 14/7/5.9 Rather bluffy and aggro. Havent seen this particular line from him before


    Table Fluorine 04 6-max (Real Money)
    Seat 5 is the button
    Total number of active players : 5
    Seat 1: bloodyK ( $46.33 )
    Seat 2: barnes84 ( $50.38 )
    Seat 3: Malin25 ( $100 )
    Seat 4: haller69 ( $164.90 )
    Seat 5: duckyfuzz ( $108 )
    Seat 6: glavoni ( $132.05 )
    glavoni posts small blind [$0.50]
    bloodyK posts big blind [$1]
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to duckyfuzz [ Qh, Ad ]
    barnes84 folds
    haller69 calls [$1]
    duckyfuzz raises to [$4.50]
    glavoni folds
    bloodyK folds
    haller69 calls [$3.50]
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, 7h, 3h ]
    haller69 checks
    duckyfuzz bets [$6.90]
    haller69 calls [$6.90]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ Ah ]
    haller69 bets [$10]
    duckyfuzz calls [$10]
    ** Dealing River ** [ 9h ]
    haller69 bets [$32]
    duckyfuzz ????

    Call?

    ********************************
    These last 2 are 50NL. No reads.


    Hand 6)

    Table Neon 04 6-max (Real Money)
    Seat 6 is the button
    Total number of active players : 5
    Seat 1: Lagun ( $48.35 )
    Seat 2: lapwing10 ( $0 )
    Seat 3: ajh83 ( $96.52 )
    Seat 4: Cliff100 ( $50.95 )
    Seat 5: duckyfuzz ( $84.38 )
    Seat 6: eltino ( $58.29 )
    Lagun posts small blind [$0.25]
    ajh83 posts big blind [$0.50]
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to duckyfuzz [ Qc, As ]
    Cliff100 raises to [$1.75]
    duckyfuzz calls [$1.75]
    eltino folds
    Lagun folds
    ajh83 folds
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ Kc, Tc, 3c ]
    Cliff100 bets [$4.25]
    duckyfuzz raises to [$10]
    Cliff100 goes all-in
    Cliff100 raises to [$49.20]
    duckyfuzz calls [$39.20]

    OK??


    ********************************************


    Hand 7)

    Table Neon 04 6-max (Real Money)
    Seat 5 is the button
    Total number of active players : 5
    Seat 1: olleger ( $43.56 )
    Seat 2: duckyfuzz ( $69.60 )
    Seat 3: Clearify ( $49.75 )
    Seat 4: sens ( $0 )
    Seat 5: badhabit ( $51.60 )
    Seat 6: dciho ( $53 )
    dciho posts small blind [$0.25]
    olleger posts big blind [$0.50]
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to duckyfuzz [ Ad, As ]
    duckyfuzz raises to [$1.75]
    Clearify folds
    badhabit calls [$1.75]
    dciho folds
    olleger calls [$1.25]
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 7c, 5c, 9c ]
    olleger checks
    duckyfuzz bets [$4.50]
    badhabit folds
    olleger calls [$4.50]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 2d ]
    olleger checks
    duckyfuzz bets [$10]
    olleger goes all-in
    olleger raises to [$37.31]
    duckyfuzz ????????


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    Hand 1 - fold the flop, failing that fold the turn, failing that shove now.
    Hand 2 - 70/7/what? I'm pretty sure its a fold - ur screwed or flipping most often
    Hand 3 - Shove
    Hand 4 - just fold the first time you get raised, failing that, fold the turn.
    Hand 5 - yuck, call
    Hand 6 - fold/3-bet pre. Fold to his shove.
    Hand 7 - maybe chk flop, sometimes chk turn, and fold now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭RedJoker


    Hand 1: Shove.

    Hand 2: Overbet shove is usually a monster, I probably fold here but against a 70/7 he could have anything.

    Hand 3: Def not folding, call or shove. Shove prob better.

    Hand 4: I call the river.

    Hand 5: Yeah against a bluffy aggro player I think you have to call the river but if he's playing 14/7 I doubt he's getting too out of line tbh.

    Hand 6: Your flop raise is way too small. After his push I think you could be in a lot of trouble, fold. Floating the flop may have been a better line.

    Hand 7: Yuck, you may be committed but I can't see you beating much. Checking the turn may have been better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭pok3rplaya


    fuzzbox wrote:
    Hand 1 - fold the flop, failing that fold the turn, failing that shove now.
    Really, fold to one raise? Is the fact that we're 3 way affecting this much?
    fuzzbox wrote:
    Hand 2 - 70/7/what? I'm pretty sure its a fold - ur screwed or flipping most often
    Yeah you're right.

    fuzzbox wrote:
    Hand 4 - just fold the first time you get raised, failing that, fold the turn.
    Is it just that low stakes aren't as aggro and I haven't compensated and got weak/tight enough?
    fuzzbox wrote:
    Hand 6 - fold/3-bet pre. Fold to his shove.
    Hand 7 - maybe chk flop, sometimes chk turn, and fold now.

    Yes and yes.

    Right, guess I got a lot of work to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    Hand 1 - I would have folded on the turn. As played i would shove the river.

    Hand 2 - Call

    Hand 3 - No way don't fold - call

    Hand 4 - What turn card ? Call

    Hand 5 - We got to call really.

    Hand 6 - Spew fold flop

    Hand 7 - I would check behind on the turn. As played i fold.

    Opr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭connie147


    fuzzbox wrote:
    Hand 1 - fold the flop, failing that fold the turn, failing that shove now.
    Hand 2 - 70/7/what? I'm pretty sure its a fold - ur screwed or flipping most often
    Hand 3 - Shove
    Hand 4 - just fold the first time you get raised, failing that, fold the turn.
    Hand 5 - yuck, call
    Hand 6 - fold/3-bet pre. Fold to his shove.
    Hand 7 - maybe chk flop, sometimes chk turn, and fold now.

    Hi Fuzz,
    Cash games are something I'm trying to learn as much as I can about. Hand 1 intrigues me here.Are you always folding KK on the flop here on a rainbow straightening board?:confused: I know he was min-raised but why do you think he's behind by the action thats taken place?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    connie147 wrote:
    Hi Fuzz,
    Cash games are something I'm trying to learn as much as I can about. Hand 1 intrigues me here.Are you always folding KK on the flop here on a rainbow straightening board?:confused: I know he was min-raised but why do you think he's behind by the action thats taken place?

    The fuzz rule states - if you are playing stakes of 1/2 or less, and you have one pair, and are raised, just fold.

    Thus, fold KK to the flop raise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    pok3rplaya wrote:
    Really, fold to one raise? Is the fact that we're 3 way affecting this much?

    Didnt even notice it was 3-way, you are playing stakes 1/2 or less, and you got raised, and you hold one-pair, so you should fold (unless you have a read to the contrary)
    Yeah you're right.


    Is it just that low stakes aren't as aggro and I haven't compensated and got weak/tight enough?

    Dont get weak/tight, get weak/loose.


    Yes and yes.
    Right, guess I got a lot of work to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    Surely in hand two a moron like this has loads of stuff apart from combo draws or us crushed ?

    Will he not show up loads with bare draws , small PP's , random bluffs etc ? I think we have decent equity against his range.

    Opr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭pok3rplaya


    ok nit-town here we come.

    Just out of interest, how often should I be cbetting at these stakes? 100%?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Van Dice


    1 shove

    2 call, I'd find it very hard to fold this against someone with a brain never mind someone who doesn't

    3 God don't fold! It's closer between shoving and calling imo, if I've good reads or have played lots with opponent, I'm more inclined to shove, but call here

    4 call river, he can bet here with lots of hands you beat

    5 call

    6 I think folding flop is better than raising , but as played I prob call, need to pokerstove though, cos he has Ac a bit

    7 ugh tough. need to pokerstove again, but it's probably close enough that neither calling nor folding is bad
    pok3rplaya wrote:
    Just out of interest, how often should I be cbetting at these stakes? 100%?

    I think cbetting 100% (or close to it) is a pretty big leak at any stakes


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    pok3rplaya wrote:
    ok nit-town here we come.

    Just out of interest, how often should I be cbetting at these stakes? 100%?

    Only play like a nit if you are raised.
    Be prepared to VB thin.

    CB v.often for sure. But obv if you get called by a 16/9 dude in the blinds who has a Call-Raise % of 3% and you have ATo, and the board comes 973r, then dont bother.

    Also - prefer bet/bet/check (or even bet/bet/bet) with one-pair to bet/check/bet(or call). This is cos they aren't aggro enough to c/r you on the come on the turn, nor to bluff at you on the river, so you lose plenty value if you dont bet the turn with a strong one-pair hand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    opr wrote:
    Surely in hand two a moron like this has loads of stuff apart from combo draws or us crushed ?

    If you believe that to be true, then continue to call. I dont believe it to be true, so I fold.
    Will he not show up loads with bare draws , small PP's , random bluffs etc ? I think we have decent equity against his range.
    Opr

    I dont agree, but you can continue to call in spots like this and see what results you get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭HiCloy


    1. Fold the turn, shove the river

    2. 70/7 isn't very aggro, i fold

    3. Just a call

    4. Fold the turn, fold the river

    5. I don't see many bluffy 14/9s. C/C flop lead turn looks strong but go with your reads and call

    6. I def fold to the shove, not even getting 2/1

    7. Fold now

    That's a lot of folds :eek:

    Hope things pick up for you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭pok3rplaya


    fuzzbox wrote:
    Only play like a nit if you are raised.
    Be prepared to VB thin.

    CB v.often for sure. But obv if you get called by a 16/9 dude in the blinds who has a Call-Raise % of 3% and you have ATo, and the board comes 973r, then dont bother.

    Also - prefer bet/bet/check (or even bet/bet/bet) with one-pair to bet/check/bet(or call). This is cos they aren't aggro enough to c/r you on the come on the turn, nor to bluff at you on the river, so you lose plenty value if you dont bet the turn with a strong one-pair hand.

    Cool thanks. Hopefully I can learn to adjust a bit faster now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭ZZR1100


    fuzzbox wrote:
    The fuzz rule states - if you are playing stakes of 1/2 or less, and you have one pair, and are raised, just fold.

    Thus, fold KK to the flop raise.

    What does the fuzzrule state for games above 1/2 in similar circumstances?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    fuzzbox wrote:
    The fuzz rule states - if you are playing stakes of 1/2 or less, and you have one pair, and are raised, just fold.

    Thus, fold KK to the flop raise.

    As someone who plays 50nl reguarlly I strongly disagree with the fuzz rule.
    People love raising "to see where they are at" raising with tp, mp, draw or just any old crap becaue they are tards playing 50nl.
    Obviously every situation is different but if I was going to go from some blanket rule I would lean the opposite way especially if your being raised on the flop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Van Dice


    Is the Baluga Theorem (2+2) that when you're raised on the turn, 1 pair is no good?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    Yeah i think its something like people play more honestly on the turn so you should always revaluate one pair hands to turn action.

    Opr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Van Dice


    opr wrote:
    Yeah i think its something like people play more honestly on the turn so you should always revaluate one pair hands to turn action.

    Opr

    Mmm. My problem is that I do reevaluate, but I call anyway:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    Van Dice wrote:
    Mmm. My problem is that I do reevaluate, but I call anyway:)

    Yeah like me you reevaluate and come up with an answer that they are anything but honest on the turn.

    I call this the robbingthieving***** theorem :)

    Opr


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