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  • 23-09-2007 1:04am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭


    Both villans are decent regs stats 22/12/4/8950 on the Button and 24/15/3.5/5500 villan 2

    Carlos Poker 1.00/2.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

    saw flop | saw showdown

    Button Monti7777 ($30.00)
    SB maxwell89 ($349.15)
    BB hero ($624.96)
    UTG FatManWithCap ($212.90)

    Preflop: hero is in the BB with 3diamond.gif 3club.gif
    FatManWithCap calls 2.00, 1 fold, maxwell89 raises to 9.00, hero calls 8.00, FatManWithCap calls 8.00.

    Flop (30.00) 3heart.gif 5club.gif 4club.gif
    maxwell89 bets 23.00, hero raises to 60.00, FatManWithCap calls 60.00, maxwell89 calls 37.00.

    Turn (210.00) Jdiamond.gif
    maxwell89 checks, hero ??????



    Hand 2

    Variety of villans ... Only good one is the original raiser at 22/16... villan 2 the ss is 45/25 villan 3 is 35/11 villan 4 is 35/20


    Carlos Poker 1.00/2.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

    saw flop | saw showdown

    Button Profit01 ($660.46)
    SB HighDown ($202.79)
    BB hero ($236.55)
    UTG WRAPPEDInPLASTiC ($200.00)
    UTG+1 Muesly ($58.15)
    CO EhimeMaru ($211.25)

    Preflop: hero is in the BB with 3diamond.gif 3spade.gif
    WRAPPEDInPLASTiC raises to 7.00, Muesly calls 7.00, 1 fold, Profit01 calls 7.00, HighDown calls 6.00, hero calls 5.00.

    Flop (35.00) 8spade.gif 3diamond.gif Tspade.gif
    HighDown checks, hero checks, WRAPPEDInPLASTiC bets 27.00, Muesly calls 27.00, Profit01 raises to 54.00, HighDown raises to 120.00, HERO????

    Plan was to check raise.......
    We don't fold sets.........but if we did what better place???

    Opinions welcome as always


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭RoadSweeper


    Hand 1

    I probably bet close to pot on the turn, and pump a non scary river.


    Hand 2


    Oh man, i fold probably. What kinda table you at?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭NeoSlicerZ


    I'd feel rather sick in your position.
    #1 Does FMWC limp low PPs/SCs in EP usually or does he raise them? Checking behind would lead to a harder decision esp if FMWC shoves (he has ~140 left right? and maxwell reshoves). Looks to me like maxwell had a marginal overpair on the flop, I bet about 150/call shove, and shove/call shove river.

    #2 The board is drawy enough that I'd shove and pray really hard that your hand holds up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    hand 1 im not folding

    hand 2 i think a fold is best


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,476 ✭✭✭Samba


    agree with 1.

    Hand 2.

    I think folding here would be a mistake when considering our stack size, both villains stats and the texture of that flop.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    1. pot
    2. shove


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    what's with the flop raise in #1?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭Macspower


    RoundTower wrote:
    what's with the flop raise in #1?


    you dont like it??

    Please tell me why?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    Macspower wrote:
    you dont like it??

    Please tell me why?

    its v.small


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭Macspower


    fuzzbox wrote:
    its v.small

    Agreed... Looking at it now 75/80 would have been better.... I presume he's advocating no flop raise though?? maybe I'm wrong.... A flop raise here is essential.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    1. Hero bets ~$150
    2. Hero shoves and prays J9s doesnt hit.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    I could see a fold in hand 2.... don't think I even like it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭Goodluck2me


    Macspower wrote:
    Agreed... Looking at it now 75/80 would have been better.... I presume he's advocating no flop raise though?? maybe I'm wrong.... A flop raise here is essential.....
    well it looks almost like a min raise only a few euro more, and when you act unpredicibly like that it can make for more difficult decisions later in the hand i..e limping with aces. when they call your raise here it doesnt show that much strength, but if you had made it 75-85 and they called id prob be more worried.
    Hand 1 - bet 190 on the turn, and be happy to get it in.
    Hand 2- surely doesnt have to be sets your against, shove and concentrate VERY hand on hitting another 3 obv.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭Macspower


    Ok once again many thanks for all advice... I decided bet enough to get both villans all in in the first hand.....


    Both villans are decent regs stats 22/12/4/8950 on the Button and 24/15/3.5/5500 villan 2

    Carlos Poker 1.00/2.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

    saw flop | saw showdown

    Button Monti7777 ($30.00)
    SB maxwell89 ($349.15)
    BB hero ($624.96)
    UTG FatManWithCap ($212.90)

    Preflop: hero is in the BB with 3diamond.gif 3club.gif
    FatManWithCap calls 2.00, 1 fold, maxwell89 raises to 9.00, hero calls 8.00, FatManWithCap calls 8.00.

    Flop (30.00) 3heart.gif 5club.gif 4club.gif
    maxwell89 bets 23.00, hero raises to 60.00, FatManWithCap calls 60.00, maxwell89 calls 37.00.

    Turn (210.00) Jdiamond.gif
    maxwell89 checks, hero bets 280.00, FatManWithCap moves all-in for 142.90, 1 fold.

    River (632.90) Qspade.gif

    FatManWithCap shows 7club.gif 6club.gif
    hero shows 3diamond.gif 3club.gif

    FatManWithCap wins 632.90 with A straight, Seven high

    forgot to say that Maxwell89 said in the chat box before timing out that he had KK.... he prob had ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭Macspower


    Hand 2

    We don't fold sets but if ever I was folding a set I think this was the place for it...

    Variety of villans ... Only good one is the original raiser at 22/16... villan 2 the ss is 45/25 villan 3 is 35/11 villan 4 is 35/20


    Carlos Poker 1.00/2.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

    saw flop | saw showdown

    Button Profit01 ($660.46)
    SB HighDown ($202.79)
    BB hero ($236.55)
    UTG WRAPPEDInPLASTiC ($200.00)
    UTG+1 Muesly ($58.15)
    CO EhimeMaru ($211.25)

    Preflop: hero is in the BB with 3diamond.gif 3spade.gif
    WRAPPEDInPLASTiC raises to 7.00, Muesly calls 7.00, 1 fold, Profit01 calls 7.00, HighDown calls 6.00, hero calls 5.00.

    Flop (35.00) 8spade.gif 3diamond.gif Tspade.gif
    HighDown checks, hero checks, WRAPPEDInPLASTiC bets 27.00, Muesly calls 27.00, Profit01 raises to 54.00, HighDown raises to 120.00,2 folds, Muesly moves all-in for 24.15, 1 fold.

    Turn (287.15) 7heart.gif

    River (287.15) 7club.gif

    HighDown shows 8diamond.gif 8heart.gif
    Muesly shows 3heart.gif 2spade.gif

    HighDown wins 287.15 with A fullhouse, Eight's and Seven's

    funniest part of this was profit time banking and climing a set of 3's.... Rigged lol


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