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1/2pl SE - simple hand..

  • 19-09-2007 10:57am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭


    Effective stacks c.700

    Villian raises to 7 in ep, hero makes it 25 in the CO with KK, Some Random Donkey (El Stuntman) calls behind on the button. Edit - villian calls. (pot 78)

    Flop Qs Jh 10s.

    Villian checks,

    I?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    isn't el s a well known rock?

    if so his range is like tt+/Ak. all you beat is 99-

    i check back


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    Effective stacks c.700

    Villian raises to 7 in ep, hero makes it 25 in the CO with KK, Some Random Donkey (El Stuntman) calls behind on the button. (pot 78)

    Flop Qs Jh 10s.

    Villian checks,

    I?


    Bet 60.

    If re-raised go with your read and either push or fold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    check behind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 365 ✭✭ronanp


    I'd feel obliged to pot it and expect to see the 8 of spades on the turn...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    Mr.Plough wrote:
    isn't el s a well known rock?

    if so his range is like tt+/Ak. all you beat is 99-

    i check back

    no his range this deep is any pocket pair. AK and maybe even AQ as I had been pretty active. Ive not addressed El S as the villian in this hand tho.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭BobSloane


    check and see if the pf raiser check-raises the random donkey who may well bet at it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭ollyk1


    Just to clarify we are 3 handed right?

    We've got EP raiser checking to us having potted preflop and flat calling our raise and El S cold calling otb for €25. I'm checking here >90% of the time.

    The only hand you can get good action from here is AQ imo and I doubt they both have that. Try really hard to spike an ace on the turn if you get that far. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭ollyk1


    no his range this deep is any pocket pair. AK and maybe even AQ as I had been pretty active. Ive not addressed El S as the villian in this hand tho.


    True. El S does like a flutter in position.

    I think you should have had villain 1 and villain 2 in this hand so as not to give the game away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    this is from last week? :confused: I can remember a KK hand from last week but was nothing like this one...

    or are you hallucinating again????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    this is from last week? :confused:

    or are you hallucinating again????

    yeah last week - are some of the details incorrect?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    yeah last week - are some of the details incorrect?

    maybe not, I prolly folded my 83off :)

    I think I remember this one now - will await further comments


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭strewelpeter


    Not that simple is it !

    What kind of a read have you got on the Villain? You must have some info - how did he get to be playing 700 for instance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    Not that simple is it !

    What kind of a read have you got on the Villain? You must have some info - how did he get to be playing 700 for instance?


    hit big hands with alarming consistency.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    hit big hands with alarming consistency.

    that was the guy who came in late-ish to the 9 seat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    that was the guy who came in late-ish to the 9 seat?

    yep he was seat 9 or 10. he was getting some big hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,433 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    LuckyLloyd wrote:
    I check behind the flop here most of the time, for reasons that should be fairly obvious.

    im not trying to hog your 5000th post but in what scenarios do you bet here rather than check?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,433 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    Horrible flop check plz


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,858 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    If this hand is simple, why post it?
    /end rant

    Anyways, I pull the dealer across the table and ask him/her never to deal a flop like that when I have KK again, and then I check it generally. You could 'bet to see where you are' :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Van Dice


    I check here too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭strewelpeter


    OK then another question, is this completely different 100 bbs or less deep?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Van Dice


    I would check 100 BBs deep too


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