$25nl KQ middle pair

zuutroy

Not a major hand, but a spot that I find myself a little bit at sea with. Villain is 25/15/5/50. I re-raised him all in with the nut straight earlier in the session (he folded)


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP2 ($10)
MP3 ($25)
CO ($14.95)
Button ($25)
Hero ($41.75)
BB ($13.55)
UTG ($28.95)
UTG+1 ($15.65)
MP1 ($25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, Q. MP2 posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.75, 1 fold, MP2 (poster) calls $0.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.65, 1 fold.

Flop: ($2.50) 2, Q, A(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $1.5, MP2 folds, Hero ....

dvdfan

Preflop i think calling isnt terrible but i prefer to either 3bet or fold here and considering hes only raising 15% of hands and hes in early position i think id fold in this situation as its well possible hes dominating with the likes of AQ or AK alot of the time. I dont like calling because your only winning a big pot with 2 pair or a flush and i dont think your hitting that often enough to be calling. Your also rarely taking down a flop with a bet 3way. If you hit K or Q high you have to thread carefully and your not winning a big pot often enough and if the pot is big your likely behind.

As played most times you can fold the flop when someone bets into 2 people on an ace high board, youve no real draws and if a K drops you may still be behind to AK, your only beating a bluff and youve posted no reads to suggest that he bluffs.

If i have a read that he often cbets flop and check/folds turn then i might float but thats very read dependant and you havent posted anything about reads so an easy fold i think.

zuutroy

Thanks for the detail, appreciated. I only 3 bet with the AK, KK, QQ really. Guess I should widen the net a little in the right situations. I'm liking $25 so far (probably because I'm running good). It seems to be a bit less of circus that $10.

dvdfan

zuutroy wrote:

Thanks for the detail, appreciated. I only 3 bet with the AK, KK, QQ really. Guess I should widen the net a little in the right situations. I'm liking $25 so far (probably because I'm running good). It seems to be a bit less of circus that $10.

3betting with AA-JJ and AK at 25nl is usually good enough, i wouldnt recommend 3betting anyone in early position with KQ unless you think there 3betting light so id rather fold here as i dont think 3betting is great either but id prefer it to calling.

For getting used to 3betting if your using PAHUD i love to 3bet anyone with a Att to Steal stat of 27+ with almost any 2 cards if there on the Button or CO and im in the blinds and if they call cbet any flop and then give up. Make it a decent raise considering your going to be OOP.

The success rate is excellent just be careful not to do it against very aggressive players or calling stations but most times there just stealing and its not profitable for them to call.

coillcam

dvdfan wrote:

3betting with AA-JJ and AK at 25nl is usually good enough, i wouldnt recommend 3betting anyone in early position with KQ unless you think there 3betting light so id rather fold here as i dont think 3betting is great either but id prefer it to calling.

I agree wholeheartedly with the above for 6max but I do feel we need to adjust for full ring(9/10 max). EP raises are without doubt a fair bit tighter so your calling range obviously will be tighter. I Won't 3 bet here PF at all though @ 6max I will if my image is reasonably tight ie. I haven't shown down dodgey holdings vs. villain or on this table and against a suitable opponent(see below).

With regard Dvdfans advice on 3 betting light, from the blinds/button vs. defininite stealers a must do(Obv. not a 40/25 as you never wanna be OOP without the goods vs these mad retards esp. in bigger pots). Otherwise in general forget about it at $25NL you will be called too much pre and post flop with stupid holdings. Though his will be an immensely profitable addition to your repertoire of moves when you target the right player as you move up.... the 18/15/3 and 20/18/3 until you realise that they cop on and start 4 betting PF
and 3 betting you light = FUN and GAMES! but thankfully not that often.

As played C/F flop you are not vs. smaller PP or random stuff to warrant a call and profit in the long run.

EDIT: PF... Fold>Calling>>>3 Bet

EDIT: Also with regard dvdfans option of floating, on that flop I will never do it. But vs same opponents (that you will be targeting to 3 bet) on a reasonably scary/dry/drawy board I will raise(when scare card hits) or bet the turn (when checked to irregardless of turn card) Again immensely exploitable when used correctly.