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was anyone up for Georgia

  • 17-09-2007 11:58pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,744 ✭✭✭✭


    as a committed Irish sporting fan , and have previously lambasted Chucky for being unpatriotic ;) , but whilst watching the game on Saturday part of me , wanted Georgia to win , when i see an Irish team giving a 100% , there is no bigger fan , but watching the effort the Georgians put in, i sneakily wanted them to get the glory they deserved ... yes i would have been devastated that this golden team of Irish rugby would have exited , and i'll be screaming for Ireland on Friday ... but i've met a few others who fealt like me on Saturday .. any others here ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    It might have taught the Irish a lesson. Put it this way, I wouldn't have been overly disappointed to lose to such a good effort! Glad we won though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    Not really being a rugby man myself and therefore not really having any patriotic link to it i was sort of a neutral swaying to Georgia, seeing as we are meant to be the worlds best or whatever and they put in such a fight.

    The clapping in the pub after it surprised me. When we got the injury time winner against San Marino last February, we initially cheered, elated that the 3 points had been held onto. However, it must have been 4 seconds into drunkenly joyous of singing yil never beat the Irish that we stopped and realised what had happened, we had won but it was an awful, sloppy win, and we went home in a mood as if we had lost. Beating or equalising against the Germans or Brazilians in a tournament is a moment of elation. Knocking in a goal in the dying seconds against an international team that would struggle in the eircom league is different. The mood compared to the Georgia response really contrasted with it i felt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭MikeHoncho


    Why the hell would you support the opposing team. I was in a bar on Baggot street and there was a bunch of Irish morons cheering for Georgia. I was very tempted to go up slap the fu**ers silly. You should support your team through thick and thin. That is your job as an Irish rugby fan. All credit to the Georgians they gave us a hell of a match and if I was in the ground I would have stayed and clapped there lap of honour. But not in a million years would I cheer for or want any other team to beat us and anyone that does is as bad as EOS and the players out in France who have forgotten why they are there in the first place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,418 ✭✭✭Jip


    To the above poster, there's a noticable difference between Rugby and Soccer supporters in how the opposition is viewed. In rugby, good plays and tries are acknowledged and opposing teams generally get applauded. In soccer, if the opposing team does anything good they're called every name under the sun and I'd hate to see this creep into rugby.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭MikeHoncho


    Jip wrote:
    To the above poster, there's a noticable difference between Rugby and Soccer supporters in how the opposition is viewed. In rugby, good plays and tries are acknowledged and opposing teams generally get applauded. In soccer, if the opposing team does anything good they're called every name under the sun and I'd hate to see this creep into rugby.

    Theres a difference between acknowledging good play and actually cheering for the oppostion which is what I witnessed. Ive been playing and supporting Rugby since I was 8 years old and will be the first one to clap an opposition try / turnover etc if its deserved but I would never try to get a chant going for the opposing team in the pub.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,744 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    MikeHoncho wrote:
    Why the hell would you support the opposing team. I was in a bar on Baggot street and there was a bunch of Irish morons cheering for Georgia. I was very tempted to go up slap the fu**ers silly. .

    I was not alone , and i wasn't get chants going , it was just a fealing i had , when you see a semi pro team , with no history , squeezing every last bit of juice out of themselves , and you watch our bunch of fittest ever , 15 Roy Keanes , being bossed around the park, yes part of me was up for Georgia , they deserved it more than we did


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭Diamondmaker


    Im in Bordeaux at the minute ( well at a beach resort just outside ) and if the Geo game happened at home you would have heard booing.

    The only reason you could not hear the Irish booing was because the French and few Geo fans were chearing so loudly, I fear that if there were more Irish fans there and the losing team was not cheering so loudly we would have heard full on booing!!

    Mood very bad on streets after, likened to Euro Disney Mickey, Goofey and the boys !!:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    thebaz wrote:
    as a committed Irish sporting fan , and have previously lambasted Chucky for being unpatriotic ;) , but whilst watching the game on Saturday part of me , wanted Georgia to win , when i see an Irish team giving a 100% , there is no bigger fan , but watching the effort the Georgians put in, i sneakily wanted them to get the glory they deserved ... yes i would have been devastated that this golden team of Irish rugby would have exited , and i'll be screaming for Ireland on Friday ... but i've met a few others who fealt like me on Saturday .. any others here ?

    Your attitude is appalling and you should be ashamed of yourself.
    Part of you wanted Ireland to lose against Georgia? And you have balls to say "there is no bigger fan"....

    Whether they play badly or not, you should be behind them 100% all of the time and not secretly hoping the opposition win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,744 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    Keyzer wrote:
    Your attitude is appalling and you should be ashamed of yourself.
    .

    actually i'm not ashamed of myself, i'm just being honest , Georgia deserved it more than we did , there effort was way above ours they have less than 2,000 players , and never done anything big in rugby -- am i ashamed ? -- NO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Not my words but a NZ commentator:

    The Ireland v Georgia clash was slightly different. Georgia, as undefeated champions of the Central Asian Gas Field, were way too complacent. Their emphatic victories over Kazakstan, Ukraine and Turkey had produced a culture of excess. They clearly underestimated the Irish based on their mid-table finish in Six Nations, a tournament that has little appeal these days except as the butt of jokes outside of Europe.

    When Ireland raced away to a 7-0 lead the Georgians were woken from their apathy and forced to scramble. The plucky Irish had come to play and the ferocity of their assault had caught the Georgians napping.

    With a little orthodox application a 10-7 lead was established for the favourites, but it only took a couple of miraculous bounces and the Irish had scored again. The heroic, historic 14-10 victory was no less than the Irish deserved, coming as they so obviously did into this fixture with little more than blind hope.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭Raiser


    Keyser wrote:
    Your attitude is appalling and you should be ashamed of yourself.

    I'll see to it that he is suitably "ashamed" Keyser; now sit down please sir - you're making a scene :D

    The Georgians earned the respect of a lot of folks that night; their rugby was skillful, precise and great to watch. Their attitude, grit, determination and overall play was exemplary. They out-shone Ireland in almost every area and [I honestly assume] that there wasn't a single neutral rugby-fan watching who was happy that the sloppy team actually blundered through for what is widely considered to be an ill-deserved win.

    I personally didn't want to see Ireland lose that night - but of the two teams playing that night - if the one in the green jerseys who were playing loose flabby, aimless rugby had actually lost then I'd have just shrugged and thought to myself that they should have played the fcuking game properly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭bowsie casey


    CJhaughey wrote:
    Not my words but a NZ commentator:

    The Ireland v Georgia clash was slightly different. Georgia, as undefeated champions of the Central Asian Gas Field, were way too complacent. Their emphatic victories over Kazakstan, Ukraine and Turkey had produced a culture of excess. They clearly underestimated the Irish based on their mid-table finish in Six Nations, a tournament that has little appeal these days except as the butt of jokes outside of Europe.

    When Ireland raced away to a 7-0 lead the Georgians were woken from their apathy and forced to scramble. The plucky Irish had come to play and the ferocity of their assault had caught the Georgians napping.

    With a little orthodox application a 10-7 lead was established for the favourites, but it only took a couple of miraculous bounces and the Irish had scored again. The heroic, historic 14-10 victory was no less than the Irish deserved, coming as they so obviously did into this fixture with little more than blind hope.

    LOL :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    CJhaughey wrote:
    Not my words but a NZ commentator:

    They clearly underestimated the Irish based on their mid-table finish in Six Nations, a tournament that has little appeal these days except as the butt of jokes outside of Europe.


    is this really an NZ commentator or are you just taking the piss?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Me take the piss? come on!
    No seriously it is a NZ'er that goes by the penname Inky.
    I thought it was pretty funny :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,383 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I didn't want them to lose because it would be a disaster for people who have travelled over to France to support the team. People who for months would have been looking forward to the game in Paris on Friday. Also, you should never want your team to lose no matter how annoying it is to watch them at times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    I didn't so much support Georgia, I just felt really bad for them when they lost.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    Most true rugby fans will always be fans of their country then rugby in general. To be honest there was nothing to support or cheer for Ireland against Georgia while there was a lot to cheer for Georgians and they did deserve to win but their tunnel vision blocked them from going down that path


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭Ulstermell0


    CJhaughey wrote:
    Not my words but a NZ commentator:

    The Ireland v Georgia clash was slightly different. Georgia, as undefeated champions of the Central Asian Gas Field, were way too complacent. Their emphatic victories over Kazakstan, Ukraine and Turkey had produced a culture of excess. They clearly underestimated the Irish based on their mid-table finish in Six Nations, a tournament that has little appeal these days except as the butt of jokes outside of Europe.

    When Ireland raced away to a 7-0 lead the Georgians were woken from their apathy and forced to scramble. The plucky Irish had come to play and the ferocity of their assault had caught the Georgians napping.

    With a little orthodox application a 10-7 lead was established for the favourites, but it only took a couple of miraculous bounces and the Irish had scored again. The heroic, historic 14-10 victory was no less than the Irish deserved, coming as they so obviously did into this fixture with little more than blind hope.

    lol - typical arrogant Kiwi tho - would love to see us beat them.

    as a manu fan i have to admit that when they play the likes of exeter city i want to see the minnow win. but with rugby i'm totally different i felt physically sapped from pouring support to the boys on saturday and thats just in the pub. ok if we were 40 points up at half time i wouldn't have minded seeing georgia run in a try, but as it was my stomach was clenched the whole of the second half waiting for 'the last twenty minutes when the smaller team will tire out' that never came.

    i would give blood sweat and tears for a win on Friday!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭drumm23


    I was roaring Georgia on. And I wouldn't apologise to anyone for it. I've followed Irish rugby all over the world and I don't give a sh1t what the pious "patriots" make of it. They played like over-payed, over-hyped, prima-donnas and I was willing them to lose, they let down the jersey and they let down the fans. Georgia deserved it and then some.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Suprisinly enough there was a few reasons i wouldnt of been too disappointed if Georgia won.

    1. Similiar to why i didnt want Ireland too beat San Marino, i was hoping a loss would get rid of the management. As a fan i am happy too take short term suffering to ensure a better long term future.

    2. A huge part really wanted to see the irish lads taken down a peg or two for some reason. The fact the players/public have hugely hyped when they have achieved very little has always annoyed me.

    3. Some of the players on the team i cant hate and always will.


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