The Late Late Show - Paul Williams

bugler

I've never seen such a loud of auld shíte in my life. Pure scaremongering, from someone with a vested interest in making crime out to be worse than it is.

I learned that:

- There are foreign nationals driving around with daggers on their legs. He didn't say how many, but I assume it's 90% of them. Dodgy bastards.

- There are loads of young lads taking steroids and going out to fight. They're foooking massive they are.

- Some drug-addled scumbag had his nose bitten off in Cork, fighting with another scumbag. And I'm supposed to care. It says something about our society, apparently.

- Scumbags are now less likely to stab you in the meaty part of your arse, they will go for the face!


Now rising crime levels are worth serious discussion, but it should be rational and calm. It should never involve someone like Paul Williams. While some of the stories told by the audience made for awful hearing (and I question the worth of the experience for the visibly upset relatives), they do not make for a basis for some sort of knee jerk reaction.

****ty things do happen to people, and I've posted on these site more than once about how Dublin seems to have more scumbags than many cities, but this piece of sensationalist tripe wound even me up. Random acts of violence happen. Everywhere. The causes? Innate thuggery and alcohol abuse for two. I think steroids and foreign nationals are probably down the list.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to apply for a gun licence.

Anto McC

Tell that to the Gardai.

ircoha

bugler wrote:

I've never seen such a loud of auld shíte in my life. Pure scaremongering, from someone with a vested interest in making crime out to be worse than it is.

I learned that:

- There are foreign nationals driving around with daggers on their legs. He didn't say how many, but I assume it's 90% of them. Dodgy bastards.

- There are loads of young lads taking steroids and going out to fight. They're foooking massive they are.

- Some drug-addled scumbag had his nose bitten off in Cork, fighting with another scumbag. And I'm supposed to care. It says something about our society, apparently.

- Scumbags are now less likely to stab you in the meaty part of your arse, they will go for the face!


Now rising crime levels are worth serious discussion, but it should be rational and calm. It should never involve someone like Paul Williams. While some of the stories told by the audience made for awful hearing (and I question the worth of the experience for the visibly upset relatives), they do not make for a basis for some sort of knee jerk reaction.

****ty things do happen to people, and I've posted on these site more than once about how Dublin seems to have more scumbags than many cities, but this piece of sensationalist tripe wound even me up. Random acts of violence happen. Everywhere. The causes? Innate thuggery and alcohol abuse for two. I think steroids and foreign nationals are probably down the list.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to apply for a gun licence.

A fair enough assessment, with the proviso that the bereaved mother was,IMO, being used.
There was no serious discussion by Kenny, the questions for PR were obviously pre-agreed and in truth I cant see the purpose of the exercise.

bugler

It was grief-pornography.

Wishbone Ash

I didn't see Paul Williams on the LLS!

I did see Paul Reynolds though.

philstar

That was Paul Reynolds, RTE crime corresponent

Paul Williams is the journalist with the sunday world

personally i taught it was a good debate, let down by morons smirking in the audience.

Dyr

Is the OP implying that journos arent necessarily paragons of virtue and honesty? Why that's unpossible!!

mike65

Paul Reynolds and then David McWilliams? Sheesh! What a stellar night for the Late Late again. :rolleyes:

Mike.

Mr.Micro

All I can say is that one is more likely to be bored to death by Pat Kenny and a show that belongs on cable TV in another country.It is dreadful week in and week out ,the same old faces and tired hacks all in an attempt to stun the 2 viewers that watch this wretched show .

Time Magazine

mike65 wrote:

Paul Reynolds and then David McWilliams? Sheesh! What a stellar night for the Late Late again. :rolleyes:

Mike.

Followed by a pink-haired "Ais the Bash" Ultimate Fighter and a fella who made a few quid in America.

I thought Pat the Plank was bad

Laslo

I hardly see any violence on Dublin's streets. You do see the occasional scrap kick off after closing time on a Saturday night but not very often. It was FAR worse back in the mid-90's and beforehand. Obviously there's still plenty of violence to be had if you go looking for it but 1) why would you and 2) random people being attacked seem less frequent these days. I have never felt unsafe walking around Dublin.

The Celtic Parents seem even more impressionable than their kids these days. "Oooooh! Young men are all pumped up on steriods and are all likely to be murdering rapists"... with attitudes like this it's no wonder they're topping themselves in record numbers.

Terry

Please note that the mixed martial arts event spoken about on the show is brought here by a certain promoter. As such, it is not to be mentioned.
Thanks.

bugler

Sorry for the Williams/Reynolds mix up

My sentiments remain unchanged. It was utter rubbish, purely to appeal to the "my god whats happening to this country" brigade.

dranoel

Reynolds is a credible and sincere journalist. His comments on Night Courts made particular sense - the drunken coked upped thugs that are arrested on the streets on Friday and Saturday nights to be brought straight to a judge to show off their true nature, rather than the apologetic remorseful 'he has family/addiction problems but he's seeking treatment' fakers they see three weeks later.

yomchi

Paul Reynolds is a gimp. Steroid pumped up young lads prowling Dublin's streets and all his headline phrased sentances - "Gardai said it was a coke fuelled fight" - go play with the traffic Reynolds.

As an add on, i'd rather listen to the gimp than listen to Paul Williams or that other Fcuk pot John Mooney.

yomchi

Terry wrote:

Please note that the mixed martial arts event spoken about on the show is brought here by a certain promoter. As such, it is not to be mentioned.
Thanks.

I think you are wrong there Tel. The big event was promoted by those not to be mentioned but the actual event promoter/organiser is a Dublin guy who has an MMA gym called John Kavanagh. Not sure if the next event which is a small one compared to the last one is actually promoted by those not to be mentioned. :rolleyes:

Newaglish

I was shocked at the part with the bereaved mother in the audience. When she started I thought "Oh, another campaigner about some old tragedy" but no, she's just a woman whose son died what, a week ago?! It was awful to watch and she was just a little drama tag for the Late Late to try and bring some emotion to the show. I felt awful for her - not because of what happened, but because it was being used for entertainment purposes.

ruskin

It was one of those lazy late late show serious segments that is used over and over again when there is no real relevant topical issue to discuss. That and the debate on underage drinking

endplate

Don't forget we had the fúcken rubber wierdo with the rubber tennis rackets. The late late show doesn't know what direction it's going is it meant to be a family entertainment show or is it an extension of Primetime. I switched over to Jonathan Ross he had real guests ie Trinny and Suzanna, Samual L Jackson and Quintin Tarrintino and that was a laugh

Terry

Jon wrote:

I think you are wrong there Tel. The big event was promoted by those not to be mentioned but the actual event promoter/organiser is a Dublin guy who has an MMA gym called John Kavanagh. Not sure if the next event which is a small one compared to the last one is actually promoted by those not to be mentioned. :rolleyes:

Do you think I would have put that there without checking said promoters website?

No discussion means no discussion.

lostexpectation

it seemed to be just a list of the worst things he could think of nothing new or interesting.