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How do i measure my fitness level?

  • 14-09-2007 9:00pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 273 ✭✭


    Can this be done through a fitness instructor or something,i just started kickboxing and my fitness leaves alot to be desired but id like to know where i am at the moment and what i should be aiming for...thanks lads


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,577 ✭✭✭Colm_OReilly


    The most comprehensive definition of fitness you could find is here in this pdf from Crossfit.

    To sum up a measure of fitness:
    1. Proficiency in these components: strength, power, stamina, cardio/respitoratory endurance, flexibility, coordination, agility, balance and accuracy
    2. The ability to perform well at any and every task
    3. Effecient use of the three metabolic pathways, phosphagen, glycotic and oxiditative pathways

    Best of luck with the kickboxing. If you've any other fitness questions let me know.

    Colm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    Timmy_d wrote:
    Can this be done through a fitness instructor or something,i just started kickboxing and my fitness leaves alot to be desired but id like to know where i am at the moment and what i should be aiming for...thanks lads

    If you cant run your not fit. Go for a jog around a field for an hour 2 times a week. That'll build up your fitness levels quicker than MA's which are gradual if you do those alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Clive


    If you cant run your not fit. Go for a jog around a field for an hour 2 times a week.

    I can't jog for an hour even when I'm in shape for a fight.

    Guess I'm not fit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    Clive wrote:
    I can't jog for an hour even when I'm in shape for a fight.

    Guess I'm not fit.

    Your not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭easyontheeye


    If you cant run your not fit. Go for a jog around a field for an hour 2 times a week. That'll build up your fitness levels quicker than MA's which are gradual if you do those alone.


    but thats a different type of fitness, i could outrun many people who are better fighters than me but they can sustain more bursts of energy than i can.... i dont think how long or far you can run is an indicator for fitness, if only it was that simple!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    but thats a different type of fitness, i could outrun many people who are better fighters than me but they can sustain more bursts of energy than i can.... i dont think how long or far you can run is an indicator for fitness, if only it was that simple!

    Of course your right but cardiovascular fitness is the most important by a mile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭The Shane


    No, it's not.

    It is the most popular. Not the best/most important.

    Some would argue strength - I'd side with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Clive


    Of course your right but cardiovascular fitness is the most important by a mile.

    Most important for what? Certainly not kickboxing, which was the original question.

    A marathon runner isn't going to have great fitness for a kicboxing match.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    Clive, your lack of fitness has been exposed during the many fights you've been forced to knock people out early in.

    Cardio is overrated, live or die in the first round, its what the people want to see!

    Pride Fighter, pick your battles a bit better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    Cardio is not overrated IMO. After a big burst in rounds 1 and 2 you will be an embarrassment to your sport when you gas out and get picked off slowly by your opponent. Dont run if you want to be a Tank Abbott type fighter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭columok


    Pride Fighter,

    I think Clive Roper and Shane all having fought at high level in the ring/cage have a pretty good idea of what "fitness" is. You really rankle me by telling Clive that you have a better idea of fitness from your position of anonymity. He's one of the best conditioned people I know.

    If you mean combat conditioning for martial arts then it's
    Riley wrote:
    Effecient use of the three metabolic pathways, phosphagen, glycotic and oxiditative pathways
    If you think
    Go for a jog around a field for an hour 2 times a week.
    leads to good solid ring cardio then you clearly no absolutely nothing and sound like an idiot.


    Timmy,

    If you're a member of a gym try booking a session with a personal trainer (or if you're near Tallaght contact crossfit.ie). A good PT will be able to assess your different fitnesses, whether that be burst or low-burn. The they can tailor a plan to meet your needs.

    Colum


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    While I dont disagree with you I would have to say that roadwork i.e. running is a key part of an amateur/pro boxers fitness regime and they are some of the fittest athletes in the world. I never said I had a better knowledge of fitness than anyone, I just gave my 2 cents on the matter. Dont call me an idiot, it is not nice. I do not know as much as a fitness trainer but I do know a little on the matter. IMO cardio is the basic prerequisite of fitness, it is the platform to building strength endurance and power.

    Slainte

    PF


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 263 ✭✭filament


    here's an interesting one an athelete friend i knew once told me.
    if you can do 70 pushups in 60 secodns and run a mile in under 7 minutes

    you are pro athelete fit

    ... boy i wish i could do 70 pushups full stop


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭Satan Polaroid


    Really? I'm a pro so!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,577 ✭✭✭Colm_OReilly


    While I dont disagree with you I would have to say that roadwork i.e. running is a key part of an amateur/pro boxers fitness regime and they are some of the fittest athletes in the world.

    Fittest by what standard? Probably not the fittest group by our standards. Any specialist sportsperson will not be as fit as those who don't specialise.
    IMO cardio is the basic prerequisite of fitness, it is the platform to building strength endurance and power.

    One does not need cardiovascular endurance to build strength or power. In fact, it would be more likely someone with a decent amount of strength will perform relatively better in a fitness test than someone with a decent level of cardiovascular endurance.

    In case you're wondering how you'd determine which system is better, here's how you'd test it. From Greg Glassman - "There's but one way to determine the efficacy of a fitness protocol: pit that system against a second system and test them both against the standards of a third."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    Cardio is not overrated IMO. After a big burst in rounds 1 and 2 you will be an embarrassment to your sport when you gas out and get picked off slowly by your opponent. Dont run if you want to be a Tank Abbott type fighter.
    Jesus, you're right. I have embarrassed myself and my sport with that comment.

    I'm sure everyone else got the joke, you need to stop mentally jogging for an hour and get into the cerebral sprints.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭bella1


    hi guys i found running very important when i competed in judo ,but it was only a small part of my training.i ran everyday some days fast some slow all depended on was i cutting weight or not .we would do sprints once or twice aweek,weights 4 times aweek and be on the mat 4 times a week so i think a good balance is what you need.thanks andy........bonzai..


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