some hands

Hawk Eye

Hand 1: I have villain running at 23/18/2 think he's a 2+2er with over 11k posts so probably a decent thinking player but don't have that much history.
Not sure if he checks behind or bets the turn with AsXs.

BB ($431)
UTG ($857.70)
Hero ($768.20)
CO ($400)
Button ($911.50)
SB ($341.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP with :ad, :qc.
1 fold, Hero raises to $16, CO calls $16, 2 folds.

Flop: ($38) :ac, :4d, :ks (3 players)
Hero bets $28, CO calls $28.

Turn: ($94) :8s (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $76, Hero calls $76.

River: ($246) :7s (3 players)
Hero checks, CO calls $280 (All-In), Hero ?

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Hand 2: Simple enough hand but would anyone actually just call or is there just way to many scare cards for it not to be a shove.

SB ($443.33)
Hero ($1,015.18)
UTG ($285.20)
MP ($426.50)
Button ($411.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with :8c, :7c.
1 fold, MP raises to $14, 1 fold, SB calls $12, Hero calls $10.

Flop: ($42) :6d, :9s, :ts (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $32, MP raises to $80, SB calls $80, Hero Shove right?

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Hand 3: Villain is your standard tag but haven't really seen him 3-bet pre much.

MP ($631.50)
CO ($621.50)
Button ($394)
SB ($502.15)
BB ($79.50)
Hero ($546.40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with :ad, :ac.
Hero raises to $16, MP calls $16, CO raises to $60, 3 folds, Hero calls $44, MP folds.

Flop: ($142) :2c, :5s, :kd (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($142) :3d (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $100, Hero calls $100.

River: ($342) :jd (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $145, Hero calls $145.
I have around $250 behind on river after the call.
Very passive line to take but alarms bells start ringing with his check on flop. Anyone like it? I assume I'll get destroyed for this one.

Results sometime tomorrow.

valor

#1 i bf turn, and fold as played.
#2 yeah i shove
#3 bet the turn

cardshark202

1: bet the turn, prob call a shove. as played fold
2: ship ship mcgip
3: try and get all the money in at some point please. as played shove river

pok3rplaya

valor wrote:

#1 i bf turn, and fold as played.
#2 yeah i shove

#3 looks good as long as you call and I'm thinking about considering shoving I'd rather get a bet in somewhere though.

ianmc38

1. Id bet turn and call a shove.
2. Yeah ship it in now
3. I'd 4 bet that preflop. He's just 3 bet and UTG raises and UTG+1 call which is a pretty strong move, so quite likely he has JJ+/AK. 4 bet and get all in. I'd bet the turn and shove the river as played.

ianmc38

1. Id bet turn and call a shove.
2. Yeah ship it in now
3. I'd 4 bet that preflop. He's just 3 bet and UTG raises and UTG+1 call which is a pretty strong move, so quite likely he has JJ+/AK. 4 bet and get all in. I'd bet the turn and shove the river as played.

coillcam

ianmc38 wrote:

3. I'd 4 bet that preflop. He's just 3 bet and UTG raises and UTG+1 call which is a pretty strong move, so quite likely he has JJ+/AK. 4 bet and get all in. I'd bet the turn and shove the river as played.

Would that not make our hand too obvious or are these midstakes games just so
aggro PF that it is essentially valuebetting? You may think I'm being silly but I want to learn more.

Hawk Eye

coillcam wrote:

Would that not make our hand too obvious or are these midstakes games just so
aggro PF that it is essentially valuebetting? You may think I'm being silly but I want to learn more.

I think Ian was assuming that he had a big hand when I said "haven't really seen him 3-bet pre much". I rarely 4-bet pre here (unless Tighty McTight reraises) because I'm not discounting that he could be squeezing and I can snap off a c-bet.
But having said that theres alot of merit to 4-betting he just might go a bit wild and come back over the top w/ AK or the range Ian gave him. I think it's close either way.

Hawk Eye

Hand 1 I timebanked all the way down and called, he had 33 and my hand was good. I could only really put him on 444 and thought he would have vbet the river instead of shoving slightly over the pot as I checked twice.

Hand 2 I shoved and MP called with QsJs and spiked a spade. I think this is the only situation in nlh were you flop the nuts and are still behind mathematically. Think it was 47% v 53%.

Hand 3 I do think I should have bet turn or even maybe cr but when someone doesn't cbet a K hi flop in a reraised pot something is up. As the HH shows I just called the river and he had KKK so saved myself $250.:)

RoundTower

Hawk Eye wrote:

Hand 3 I do think I should have bet turn or even maybe cr but when someone doesn't cbet a K hi flop in a reraised pot something is up

I don't think this is true at all, I see good players check here with AA, AK, QQ that have some showdown value and are wa/wb, or hands like A3s that want to take a nice free card.

Hawk Eye

RoundTower wrote:

I don't think this is true at all, I see good players check here with AA, AK, QQ that have some showdown value and are wa/wb, or hands like A3s that want to take a nice free card.

Yeah I know what your saying checking behind pot control and showdown value but I just got the vibe from him that he'd nearly always bet AK or the other AA. QQ would also check behind alot to but would never bet turn and river.
I didn't mean it to come across that his flop check was specifically KK but when you take his next two actions it can only be a complete bluff or 2 maybe 3 other holdings.