@ hands I may have donked against flushdraw

sumoward

The game is on Green Joker Poker. its the satellite to the booze up and Charity event.

Did I donk these hands?

The following are 2 hands I had early in the charity satelite.

It is 6 handed.

I am UTG with AdJs

Blinds are 20 40

I bet 120

Flush draw is next to act he raises to 320( I assume he has a decent hand)

it folds to me I call.( right move?)

Flop comes

9c3cJh

I bet 560( right move?)

Flushdraw folds



Its 6 handed In the Satelite for the Padraig Parkinson.

Blinds are 20 40.

I am UTG and get 8d8c

Next to act FlushDraw calls. it folds to sb who calls. BB call.

Flop comes

8s7s4c

It checks to me and I bet 360( right move?)

Flushdraw calls.

Turn comes 2 d. I go all-in.( right Move?)

flush draw folds.

Should I have played these differently..

Flushdraw

I dont think theres much room for strategy here but i wouldnt have lead for so much on the flop with the AJ. I thought you had KJ as i said and i folded

The 2nd one, i forget what i had, i'll look for the HH

sumoward

Flushdraw wrote:

I dont think theres much room for strategy here but i wouldnt have lead for so much on the flop with the AJ. I thought you had KJ as i said and i folded

The 2nd one, i forget what i had, i'll look for the HH

That early in a small tournie should I just let AJ go?

mdwexford

Stack sizes usually help

sumoward

mdwexford wrote:

Stack sizes usually help

Indeed they do. we started with 2k and I have about 1.5-1.7 due to hitting the wrong button on first hand.

Flushdraw has me covered as far as I recall.

Flushdraw

Heres the HH from both hands.

If i was you i fold AJ to a reraise PF that early on OOP

The 2nd hand, i put you on AK cbet and if you check the turn, i make a move but i'm never calling your push here

Green Joker Poker Padraig Parkinson Charity 20/40, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | saw showdown

Button DeadParrot9 (1980)
SB ManBitesGod (1620)
BB CoolWetSand (2290)
UTG SumowardIRE (1180)
UTG+1 Flushdraw88 (2110)
CO dastalion (4820)

Preflop: Flushdraw88 is UTG+1 with K A
SumowardIRE raises to 120, Flushdraw88 raises to 320, 4 folds, SumowardIRE calls 200.

Flop (700) 9 3 J
SumowardIRE bets 560, 1 fold

Green Joker Poker Padraig Parkinson Charity 20/40, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | saw showdown
Button DeadParrot9 (2100)
SB ManBitesGod (1580)
BB CoolWetSand (2230)
UTG SumowardIRE (1560)
UTG+1 Flushdraw88 (1710)
CO dastalion (4820)

Preflop: Flushdraw88 is UTG+1 with 6 7
SumowardIRE raises to 120, Flushdraw88 calls 120, 2 folds, ManBitesGod calls 100, CoolWetSand calls 80.

Flop (480) 8 7 4
ManBitesGod checks, CoolWetSand checks, SumowardIRE bets 360, Flushdraw88 calls 360, 2 folds.

Turn (1200) 2
SumowardIRE moves all-in for 1080, 1 fold

sumoward

Flushdraw wrote:

Heres the HH from both hands.

If i was you i fold AJ to a reraise PF that early on OOP

The 2nd hand, i put you on AK cbet and if you check the turn, i make a move but i'm never calling your push here

Green Joker Poker Padraig Parkinson Charity 20/40, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | saw showdown

Button DeadParrot9 (1980)
SB ManBitesGod (1620)
BB CoolWetSand (2290)
UTG SumowardIRE (1180)
UTG+1 Flushdraw88 (2110)
CO dastalion (4820)

Preflop: Flushdraw88 is UTG+1 with K A
SumowardIRE raises to 120, Flushdraw88 raises to 320, 4 folds, SumowardIRE calls 200.

Flop (700) 9 3 J
SumowardIRE bets 560, 1 fold

Green Joker Poker Padraig Parkinson Charity 20/40, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | saw showdown
Button DeadParrot9 (2100)
SB ManBitesGod (1580)
BB CoolWetSand (2230)
UTG SumowardIRE (1560)
UTG+1 Flushdraw88 (1710)
CO dastalion (4820)

Preflop: Flushdraw88 is UTG+1 with 6 7
SumowardIRE raises to 120, Flushdraw88 calls 120, 2 folds, ManBitesGod calls 100, CoolWetSand calls 80.

Flop (480) 8 7 4
ManBitesGod checks, CoolWetSand checks, SumowardIRE bets 360, Flushdraw88 calls 360, 2 folds.

Turn (1200) 2
SumowardIRE moves all-in for 1080, 1 fold

Ouch on first hand, better to be lucky than to be good.

on the 2nd do you think I should have checked to you?

The draws scared me and I was happy to take what I could and live to fight another day?

BobSloane

In hand 2 you have top set. Unless he has flopped a straight the worst holding he could have from your point of view is 9sTs. This would give him 13 outs or approx 2.4-1 dog. If this were his holding and he knew your cards he should still call your turn shove. There is no way you are going to end up folding top set on the river..is there? So you want to get value from it. So I'd just bet 400-600 on the turn

Mr.Plough

i check the turn sometimes in 2 if i think he'll float. otherwise what can you do if he didnt hit.

Norwich Fan Rob

u played the first hand horrendously and the 2nd hand fine.

first, full ring small blinds, opening with AJ is poor, calling a re raise from a decent player is awful, and leading the flop is also pretty poor.

semibluff

as played pre flop(not too good imo-see nickys post), id check flop and then re-raise and take it down. 90% of the time tony will CB there

hand2 i wouldnt check turn, and as we saw tonys hand i guess he may have taken the free card and folded river - but regardless of the results a bet of 500/600 would prob have gotten you a call

sumoward

Norwich Fan Rob wrote:

u played the first hand horrendously and the 2nd hand fine.

first, full ring small blinds, opening with AJ is poor, calling a re raise from a decent player is awful, and leading the flop is also pretty poor.

Thanks for that, AJ is one of those hands that sometimes gets me into trouble. It looks so nice but......

mmm it dawns on me that its not so much the hand I need to work on but playing the postion itself.

On the area of pairs that hit the set. I have been tending to see all sorts of hadsn apperaif and beating me so I try and win the pot there and then. I suppose i need to go looking for value in these situations.


As usual all the advice is appreciated. It is interesting that so much can be learnt for hands that you win with, more so it seems thatn those you lose with.

RoundTower

Norwich Fan Rob wrote:

u played the first hand horrendously and the 2nd hand fine.

first, full ring small blinds, opening with AJ is poor,

I find this hard to believe, I think it should be very standard. Agree with the rest of the post.

Samba

Hand 1.

I dont mind raising in EP providing you can let it go to serious heat, which you should have PF. Before FD posted i was going to say you probably outflopped his AK, once he re-raises it's an insta dump. His range has AJ crushed here alot of the time.

Hand 2 is fine, you could maybe check the turn to him, you might induce action from him but there alot of scare cards that could hit the river that you don't want to see if he takes a free card.

ianmc38

Opening AJ UTG 6 handed is super standard. Calling the raise is bad.