Anothe Ak - $100nl

RoadSweeper

I seem to be getting here a few times when i turn a king and get in trouble
Villian i think is a regular but not sure.

Now the turn bet from the villian was very quick and exactly the size of the pot (me thinks he's using bet pot ahk script, if that means anything )

Also he has raises from the button a few times before abot i never played back until now.
He's playing 22/17/3.3 over 520 hands.

I'm playing 17/15/3 over ~ 100 hands

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | saw showdown

Button kelkemesh ($122.50)
SB hafaia ($96.50)
BB Hero ($186.55)
UTG anterilop ($20.00)
UTG+1 HardPushTonight ($170.35)

Preflop: Hero is in the BB with K A
2 folds, kelkemesh raises to 3.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to 10.00, kelkemesh calls 7.50.

Flop (22.50) 8 2 J
Hero bets 18.00, kelkemesh calls 18.00.

Turn (58.50) K
Hero checks, kelkemesh bets 58.50,

Did my turn play suck?

I was gonna go for thr BCB for pot control when i seen the king, but he threw $58.50 in my face

mdwexford

Lead the turn for 45 and obv call a shove.

fuzzbox

CRAI now. Turn chk is fine.

RedJoker

What suits are your cards?

I make my 3bet bigger here. At least 11, but prob 12 since we're OOP.

If this is your first time 3 betting him in 100 hands it's unlikely he's calling you light here. I think PPs are far more likely than SC type hands and a PP would make sense given the stack sizes.

AK may have 4 bet preflop but I suppose it's possible he floated the flop and is now value betting.

AQ prob doesn't call the flop bet. AJ might call preflop and have called on the flop for pot control and to reevaluate on the turn. However I don't think this is a great turn bet from him if he has AJ, but that def doesn't mean it's not a possibility.

The board is slightly wet but if you haven't been 3 betting lightly he may not be worried about draws since from his POV a SC is an unlikely holding for you. This makes sets possible.

The speed of his turn bet and the unlikelihood of the K improving his hand makes this look like a bluff imo, but it could also be a made hand getting worried about how draw heavy the board has become.

I think we see a set a good bit but hands like 99 or 1010 may have floated the flop since there was only one overcard. QQ/KK/AA would be weird hands for him to have in this spot. AK/AJ are possibilities but a little less likely imo. He could always turn up with a draw of some kind too though.

I think any size bet commits him on the turn so his pot sized bet could be to get max FE or to give the worst possible drawing odds, or maybe to make his future decisions as simple as possible. I think I might shove here but I don't think I'd be extremely happy about it.

EDIT: Actually having thought about it a bit more I think I lean to a fold unless I know villain is capable of calling 3 bets with a wide range or getting tricky in 3 bet pots.

ianmc38

crai. easy money.

RoadSweeper

Edited to put in starting cards,
thanks for the replies guys.

coillcam

Your going all in now, you EDIT:may have induced a bluff/float or worse hand maybe is thinking it's ahead.

I sometimes check the turn like you did when the board is dry especially vs very aggro players who will bluff and/or to get value on the river. However I would have bet the turn here as its a draw laden board.

cardshark202

Hmm I really wanna fold here tbh. Its the betsizing that would make me think monster. Yeah I can't see him showing up with worse often if he's a reg. Regs at 100NL don't float the flop in 3bet pots and it would make little sense for him to bet QQ like this.

coillcam

cardshark202 wrote:

Hmm I really wanna fold here tbh. Its the betsizing that would make me think monster. Yeah I can't see him showing up with worse often if he's a reg. Regs at 100NL don't float the flop in 3bet pots and it would make little sense for him to bet QQ like this.

Yeah I meant say "may have induced bluff/float". post edited now. You reckon he has JJ/KK/AA (the latter 2 are unlikelyish) too often here cardshark??

RoadSweeper

i was thinking KK, but was sure he'd 4 bet PF. My stats aren't nitty enough to just call.

KJ ,JJ and 88 are possible, or a bluff. i cant see too many hands that i beat betting the flop like that.

Hawk Eye

The fact that you have the Kd changes a few things but I still think I CRAI.

BCB for pot control

What does the BCB stand for?

RoadSweeper

Its Bet-Check-Bet

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055148682

phantom_lord

min raise.

Rb

cardshark202 wrote:

Hmm I really wanna fold here tbh. Its the betsizing that would make me think monster. Yeah I can't see him showing up with worse often if he's a reg. Regs at 100NL don't float the flop in 3bet pots and it would make little sense for him to bet QQ like this.

I agree.

Fold is fine for me, think the worst we're ever going to see him turn up with here is two pair.

RoadSweeper

Result:


I folded like a little girl