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Slates natural vs machined

  • 11-09-2007 3:17pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,669 ✭✭✭


    descition time for the new build again....

    slates, whats the advantage of buying natural slates, they are a good bit dearer, and i dont want to take the salesmans reasons for going for natural.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    mukki wrote:
    descition time for the new build again....

    slates, whats the advantage of buying natural slates, they are a good bit dearer, and i dont want to take the salesmans reasons for going for natural.
    They are far better looking for a start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Natural slate is about twice the price to lay than manmade slate ie thrutone etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    The main advantage is appearance mukki, the natural slates look better and more "natural" they also don't discolour like machined slates, but they are expensive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,669 ✭✭✭mukki


    that all, okay thanks lads

    its a dormer house so all you will see is slates so i better get nice ones!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    CJhaughey wrote:
    Natural slate is about twice the price to lay than manmade slate ie thrutone etc.
    Per slate or per sq.m??

    As they are often larger than fake slates.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Per slate.
    Usually more wastage with natural slates as well due to splitting and cracking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    out of curiosity, is there a reason for the extra cost.
    and does the increased coverage of natural slates make this back in any way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭De_man


    used capco "franvisa" natural spanish slate (couldn't afford the bangor blues) worked out fine no excessive splitting...the lads didn't charge anything extra to put up..

    thankfully i stayed away from the other slates on the market...one house nearby had to take down the "cheap" chinese slate due to the roof turning white:eek: have heard very mixed reports on the brazilian slate too..have been told by a builder if staying in house for only 5years use brazilian slate...lifetime irish, welsh or spanish (in that order)


    given a choice would i put up natural slate again??? NO.. i spent over 17K on the slate alone it was just too expensive and i don't even bother looking at the roof anymore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭Slates


    Mellor wrote:
    out of curiosity, is there a reason for the extra cost.
    and does the increased coverage of natural slates make this back in any way
    Natural slate has to be quarried, split, punched, graded and imported into this country, all of the above add costs.

    Fibre cement slate production is not as costly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Slates wrote:
    Natural slate has to be quarried, split, punched, graded and imported into this country, all of the above add costs.

    Fibre cement slate production is not as costly

    I am well aware that the manufacture of natural slates is more costly, if you read over the thread again you will noticed that we were talking about the cost of laying the slates, not manufacture.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭GG66


    I too paid extra to have natural slates and it was well worth it. Looks a lot better. Check out a brand called Samaco, think I got mine in buckleys in Sligo but you should find it elsewhere.

    De_Man spent 17k on slate, must be a huge roof.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭sundodger5


    get a quote from nulock roofing. they have a new system that uses around a third less slate than traditional methods. i used their spanish slate guaranteed for 75 years and looks the business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭Avns1s


    De_man wrote:
    ....... and i don't even bother looking at the roof anymore

    Give it 15 years and then one day, have a good look at your roof. Compare it to some neighbour who used the fake slates and then put in context of the trivial amount that 17k will be. You might appreciate the little extra then!!:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭De_man


    thanks Avns1s

    i hope i last long enough to see the roof in 15years.... :D

    had another look at the roof yep the extra cost is worth it allright...


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