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4bet pot against maniac.

  • 11-09-2007 1:10pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭


    1/2 Party
    $200 Stacks

    Villain is crazy bad. 80VPIP/40PFR

    he has min 3bet all of my raises so far
    He called my 4 bet shove with 66
    he has called 4 bets, regardless of size) with 74o, Q7s, AX etc..
    his 4 bet calling range seems to be equal to his raising range!!

    it's folded to me on button
    I make it $8 with AJo - he min raises (what do people like from here)

    I make it $70 (planning on pushing most flops) HE calls

    Flop T T 4 - Pot 140 - he checks

    I push.


    What's my bet sizing like?
    I left myself with a PSB left to shove flop....
    It looks like it's hard for him to have made a pair on this flop
    But I can't imagine getting a call from a worse hand even against this guy...


    Other hand -

    Dealt to HERO [ Ah, Qh ]
    HERO raises (8) to 8
    Bratzkolino folds.
    eythorarnar raises (16) to 18
    HERO raises (36) to 44
    eythorarnar raises (52) to 70
    HERO raises (143) to 187
    HERO is all-In.
    eythorarnar calls (117)
    ** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2h, Ks, 9d ]
    ** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7c ]
    ** Dealing River ** : [ 6d ]
    Creating Main Pot with $372 with HERO

    eythorarnar balance $1450.95, bet $187, collected $372, net +$185 [ 6s 6c ] [ three of a kind, Sixes -- Ks,9d,6s,6c,6d ]


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭bops


    he has tank of 1500...he's calling your here with ATC post flop and you know this - so if youre happy to get $200 in here preflop with AJ then fair enough

    his check on the flop is kinda scary though - i'd preferred if he had open pushed

    imo it's better to see flops with this guy on the cheap and bet the fk outta your big hands post flop

    gl - i think you need it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Van Dice


    I don't think you need to play AJ that strongly against this guy, you will get a stack in whenever you have a big pair/top pair+, no need to go crazy here imo. I would often just call his 3 bet.

    As played, push is prob ok, but something a bit different like betting 50 and then 80 on turn might be better. He's not folding a pair or AK, and you're not folding either, so you may as well keep as much of his range in as possible. Betting this like a donkey means he may call with Ax or QJ or whatever other random crap he plays with


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    whats his flop af?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    I like both hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭AmarilloFats


    not sure about his aggression factor (in work) -

    van dice - I like that line - I think that works better than all in.

    bops - Sure, i could wait til i hit a hand against this guy - but getting him to call $70 (35% relative stack) preflop with what appears to be 40% of his range seems to be a rather large edge also - should I pass it up?

    he is min 3 betting me with all sorts of muck - T7o/ K9, Q4, and his good hands too..notice and he min 5 bet me with 66(which was a monster for him)
    So when he called i reckoned he did not have a pair.


    Ideally he would call an all in with this range - but I doubt he would so I made it an amount he would call with his full range - with the intention of pushing a lot of flops - but i prefer van dice line


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    Im def re-raising preflop, I might just overpush if hes gonna call no matter what. As played c/c might be a better line if hes anyway aggro postflop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    I prefer to just push preflop against people like this. Sometimes they will fold postflop if they miss completely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭AmarilloFats


    I think he drew a line of sorts with all ins..calling with KJ+ ,AT+ and all pairs.



    in the hand above he had KT for flopped trips..

    the best bit was when after busting me for the 4th time he became overwhelmed with sympathy and he typed "there's something wrong about this" - and promptly left the table.


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