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Duddy set for Spanish conquest

  • 10-09-2007 6:06pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭


    Duddy set for Spanish conquest

    The second wave of the latest Spanish armada is set to hit Irish shores next month when Pablo Navascues (pictured left) looks to upset John Duddy’s European and World title ambitions.
    Navascues’ compatriot Kiko Martinez left Irish fight fans reeling with his smash and grab raid on Bernard Dunne last month and now its Duddy’s turn to repel the Spanish invasion.

    The two men clash on the next Hunky Dorys Fight Night at the National Stadium, Dublin on Saturday, October 20th on the night of the “Celtic Tigers”.

    Read more: http://www.bernarddunne.net/p_release11.php


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    My missus just asked me did i want to go (she loves boxing) and i said yeah!She said it would be very expensive, i said why and she reminded me i'll be in oz and would have to fly home!! dont think i'll make this 1..

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Die Hard SBGNr


    duddy will woop his arse:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,007 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    I've seen Navascues , he's useless with a very padded record and Duddy should knock him out .

    He can be quite passive and has very slow hands and foot work and often seems disinterested , not to mention he's a Light-Middleweight and Duddy should blow him away in 5 rounds .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    And how far up the ladder is duddy, like has he potential to go onto the massive fights?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    And how far up the ladder is duddy, like has he potential to go onto the massive fights?

    He will go onto massive fights regardless because of his sheer marketability - provided he keeps winning.. I don't think Navascues will pose much of a problem.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    And how far up the ladder is duddy, like has he potential to go onto the massive fights?
    John duddy is very talented-he has all the abilities to go all the way once he keeps improving and will get big fights as he is a marketable lad..

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,007 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    cowzerp wrote:
    John duddy is very talented-he has all the abilities to go all the way once he keeps improving and will get big fights as he is a marketable lad..

    Duddy can't go all the way , he's got very poor defense and doesn't use his(very effective) jab nearly enough . He can be outboxed and against the top guys he can probably also be outbrawled . He's an exciting fighter who might do okay but I think he is best summed up as a Middleweight Gatti.........only I can't see John winning titles at 2 weights and fighting for the lineal title at a third .

    He'll be in big fights , he'll lose them and along the way he might get himself a world title .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,534 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Duddy had the chance to fight Taylor over nine months ago and didn't. He wasn't ready then and quite frankly will never be ready to face guys of that calibre.
    They'll outbox him easily.
    His defence is very suspect- he gets tagged far too easily, and he doesn't have the greatest punching power either. He may win one of the less prestigious world titles at some stage but that's stretching it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭bilbo79


    Big Ears wrote:

    he might get himself a world title .
    This is all the way-:eek: what do you want him to do win mr universe!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    I think that what Big Ears means is that it might not be a major world title, and if it is, it will be at an opportunistic time when one of the champions is on their last thread.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    dlofnep wrote:
    I think that what Big Ears means is that it might not be a major world title, and if it is, it will be at an opportunistic time when one of the champions is on their last thread.
    The thing with duddy is, his weaknesses are easy to fix and show that he can improve which is a good thing..

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,534 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    cowzerp wrote:
    The thing with duddy is, his weaknesses are easy to fix and show that he can improve which is a good thing..

    nah, i can't see him overcoming his shortcomings to beat the top guys in his division.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,007 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    dlofnep wrote:
    I think that what Big Ears means is that it might not be a major world title, and if it is, it will be at an opportunistic time when one of the champions is on their last thread.

    Thanks for explaining , what I mean is hey might pick up one of the belts(WBC , WBA , IBF , WBO or even worse WBA regular-when they have a 'Super Champion') at an opportunisitc time like the way Maselino Masoe didhttp://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=15483&cat=boxer
    Duddy would have most likely also beaten Evans Ashira and become WBA 'regular' champion(Jermain Taylor was later stripped of his WBA Super Champion title which although didn't technically upgrade the WBA title it still remained classified as the 'regular title' it meant a little more by the time Sturm gained it)

    What he will never be is the undisputed/lineal/universally recognized champion in his division .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Big Ears wrote:
    What he will never be is the undisputed/lineal/universally recognized champion in his division .
    Not been funny but neither will most boxers regardless of there standards..

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,007 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    cowzerp wrote:
    Not been funny but neither will most boxers regardless of there standards..

    Very true , lineal champs are almost a rarity nowdays and only the elite achieve it but what I'm tryin to emphasize is Duddy is way off the mark when it comes to the very top and may not even pick up one of the 4 recognized (alphabet) titles in his career .

    He's no Steve Collins............but he'll probably be more exciting .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    bilbo79 wrote:
    This is all the way-:eek: what do you want him to do win mr universe!!
    Well Bilbo, nowadays there are 17 weight divisions and lets say 4 'world' champions at each weight (actually there are a lot more but lets just recognise WBC, IBF, WBA and WBO). That's 68 world champions. Now do you know of 68 world champions? I am not being facaecious but the term world champion is a completely watered down term for real boxing fans. In the 60's there were 8 divisions and one champ in each. That is when being world champion meant something. As big ears says Duddy may become a 'world champion' but that really does not mean much, it is much more important to be universally recognised as the best in you weight (and ideally as the best within several weights) than to hold some paper title.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,825 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I like Duddy and think he is very exciting with a nice style and he throws great shots, but it's middleweight and at this weight you gotta' be an animal with power and that little bit extra. I don't think Duddy has it. He's a notch or two below the elite world class


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭sligobhoy67


    Big Ears wrote:
    I've seen Navascues , he's useless with a very padded record and Duddy should knock him out .

    He can be quite passive and has very slow hands and foot work and often seems disinterested , not to mention he's a Light-Middleweight and Duddy should blow him away in 5 rounds .

    Padded record like that other Spanish fighter Kiko Martinez??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,007 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    Padded record like that other Spanish fighter Kiko Martinez??

    I was the one defending Martinez's record and that he did have some good wins although it was mostly padded . I had never seen Martinez only heard about him . I have seen Navascues..............he's **** , he has no advantage over Duddy at all .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭ian.f


    So far of all the current Irish pro-boxers I've only ever mentioned one of them in the same sentence as the phrase "he has a genuine chance of winning a world title" and that's Andy Lee...

    Bernard Dunne didn't prove me wrong and I don't think that John Duddy will either even though I would love to see him to give it his best


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