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  • 09-09-2007 10:48am
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    purple'n'gold
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    Was watching Eddie Hobbs on the late late show discussing energy costs into the future etc. he stated that we have an ideological objection to nuclear power, and it’s just off the agenda. I find this incredible.


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    silverharp
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    like abortion it will be outsourced to the uk

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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    bill_ashmount
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    silverharp wrote:
    like abortion it will be outsourced to the uk

    lol


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    purple'n'gold
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    silverharp wrote:
    like abortion it will be outsourced to the uk

    That’s right, another Irish solution to an Irish problem. Boy we’re incredible, we have an ideological objection to nuclear power, but we will import nuclear generated electricity from abroad without a second thought.


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    BendiBus
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    purplengold wrote:
    That’s right, another Irish solution to an Irish problem. Boy we’re incredible, we have an ideological objection to nuclear power, but we will import nuclear generated electricity from abroad without a second thought.

    If you define NIMBYism as an ideology then yes. We're fine with abortion and nuclear power so long as it's not in our faces :(


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    silverharp
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    I was at the energy futures conference in 06 and one of the suggestions was to buy or lease one of the Nuclear powerstations in N. Wales that was up for sale. Probably a non runner but interesting suggestion.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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    mike65
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    Two 500 Mw interconnectors are in the offing, expect them to carry plenty of nuke current. That'll be the solution for us.

    Mike.


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    silverharp
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    mike65 wrote:
    Two 500 Mw interconnectors are in the offing, expect them to carry plenty of nuke current. That'll be the solution for us.

    Mike.

    Given that the globe will have hit peak oil within the next 5 years and that North Sea oil is in decline who is to say that the UK will have surplus lecky by then?
    the interconnectors will be useful but plan A should be exporting wave and wind power

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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    Victor
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    We will soon have enough base capacity to not need nuclear power.


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    BendiBus
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    silverharp wrote:
    Given that the globe will have hit peak oil within the next 5 years and that North Sea oil is in decline who is to say that the UK will have surplus lecky by then?

    Oil isn't really used to produce electricity. It's mostly gas & coal. There's a lot of gas left and a couple of hundred years of (yes, filthy) coal.

    And, no, I don't expect we'll be diverting gas supplies away from electricity to crack water for hydrogen.


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    maniac101
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    mike65 wrote:
    Two 500 Mw interconnectors are in the offing, expect them to carry plenty of nuke current. That'll be the solution for us.

    Mike.
    Two 500MW interconnectors have to be seen in the context of likely peak demand of 7,500MW in 2020. If our renewables targets are to be met by then, we'll have in excess of 4,000MW of installed wind turbines in the republic, - that's a power supply that fluctuates between 0 and 4,000MW at the whim of the gods. So no, those two interconnectors are definitely not "the solution for us".

    Even our pumped storage capacity delivers a paltry 292MW, and can only do so for about a half day before the reservoir is empty.

    We need more generation (or storage) capacity that can be adjusted to compensate for the fluctuations of the wind. But we don't need more baseload plant like nuclear.


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