1-3 Live hand, different spot?

Goodluck2me

Playing 1-3 live in Letterkenny, the table standard is very poor apart from 1-2 guys who know what they are doing.

I have played a few pots with villain, 2 small ones where i called river bets with top pair QJ ahead once to a bluff and behind the other to two pair. Villain knows i play a lot and that i am a thinking player as is he.

Villain is pretty experience cash player and a rare boards poster Hakeem.
I have been playing pretty tight just trebled up when i made it 10 from the button with KK, when i got it in 3 way on the flop of KT7, where i re-raised all in.

Hero 270 Villain 220.
Blind raise (not live) to 8, villain calls in the SB and i make it 20 without much hesitation with AA. both call. Both have very very wide ranges 34+ ATSC pretty much.
Flop is 246r, Villain checks, i bet 60, stradller folds, villain shoves for 200??i??

Hand 2 - Villain has 350 i cover. He opens to 12 i call with J9s. as do 2 others.
flop is 4d4s5s, villain bets 25 i call. turn 6c villain bets 30 and i make it 110, what range should you expect the villain to come along here with? we like?

Mellor

Hand 1: Probably call. About 2.3/1, break even is quite low. c.30%
If villians range is that wide he must be capable of a bluff. looks like a CRAI after your CB on a rag flop

Hand 2: What is the turn card?

phantom_lord

is there a mistake in the op, or did u buy in for 90 washers...? and u raised 2 bbs with kk?

did u play these hands?

make it 25+ pf, callcallcall now.

turn card? fold pf. what's up with his turn bet?

Goodluck2me

phantom_lord wrote:

is there a mistake in the op, or did u buy in for 90 washers...? and u raised 2 bbs with kk?

did u play these hands?

make it 25+ pf, callcallcall now.

turn card? fold pf. what's up with his turn bet?

no first of all there were a few hands in between them and second of all i got a full double up from one guy and an all in from another for less than my amount.

its 1-3 so its over 3BB, it was purely from deception rather than anything, im not saying i do this all the time, in fact im pretty sure it was 15 now but w/e.

edited to inlude turn card

valor

$20 is too small here, I would be making it like $35 and expecting them to call anyway. as played easy call

sikes

hand1 - raise more preflop, instacall now.

hand2 - what position is he in preflop? But you should fold preflop anyway. Now you have got here, the raise on the turn should be followed through with a shove on any river, if he calls now and checks to you on the river. I doubt you are getting him to fold big overpairs which surely make up most of his range then, but shoving the river should. Also he should believe you have at min a 4 and you would play it like this. its kind of difficult to comment on without more info.

Goodluck2me

sikes wrote:

hand1 - raise more preflop, instacall now.

hand2 - what position is he in preflop? But you should fold preflop anyway. Now you have got here, the raise on the turn should be followed through with a shove on any river, if he calls now and checks to you on the river. I doubt you are getting him to fold big overpairs which surely make up most of his range then, but shoving the river should. Also he should believe you have at min a 4 and you would play it like this. its kind of difficult to comment on without more info.

what more info would you like? he`s decent so he is aggressive and isnt afraid to commit his stack.

i realise $20 is too small, as i say its not my standard raise here a bit of range merging i guess is the fancy word for it.

sikes

what position was he in, then you can work out an idea of his range, can he have a 4 etc. What does the turn bet mean?

If i was all about raising the turn as you did, I would imagine I would need to follow through with a push on the river to make the play profitable, but I do like the play, cos the board is so scary, against the right oppoent its definately a winner.

thechamp87

same villain in both hands??

Goodluck2me

he was in the CO and i was on the button.

Yes same villain in both hands.

Slash/ED

You have to make it alot more pre flop with AA. Especially in a game with a straddle people play insanely loose pre flop and don't respect raises, make them pay for this.

mormank

this villain was heekim not hakeem?? am i right?/ if so u are probably losing in the aces hand but he could fold in the second one..if i am wrong about the players identity then i dunno...

cardshark202

Hand 1 preflop is bad, you need to raise much more, as played snapcall
Hand 2 is very read dependant, if you think he folds almost all of his range here then fine.

thechamp87

cardshark202 wrote:

Hand 1 preflop is bad, you need to raise much more, as played snapcall
Hand 2 is very read dependant, if you think he folds almost all of his range here then fine.

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Kimsang

Ah first hand the 20 preflop really threw me off. Thought you were at it to be honest and i re-raised all in on the flop with just top pair, 6-7 or something.

Second hand: Really read dependant. I remember a hand i played in your exact spot week before in Sligo were I overcalled a bet on flop with flush draw, on the turn the flop bettor lead weak i raised even having missed my draw because i thought i could take it- and did. I applied this to the hand i was in with you that night, called on the turn in the second hand with just 7-7 with the intention of calling an all-in on the river. Would never have played this hand like this against many other players. thoughts on this play? Having called the turn bet are there any cards i should fold to on the river?

Goodluck2me

i think you should fold quite a big range there against me, as i hadnt exactly been splashing around in pots that night and you have to figure me for a big hand. i usually show up with trips+ i was shocked when you called as you really werent beating anythign com e the river,

You will also have to fold the river to any Ace, King or spade which is often enought for it to be -ev imo. you only beat a non-pair bluff.

NickyOD

Hand 1: I hate the small pre flop raise. Make 35 to go. As played I probably fold to the shove.

Hand 2: Fold preflop unless there this is a multiway hand. Also, raise the flop, not the turn, It's not a good card to bluff at. If you get called give up on the river if you don't fill up because with so much in the middle he he calling the turn probably with the intention of also calling any non spade river.

Goodluck2me

NickyOD wrote:

Hand 1: I hate the small pre flop raise. Make 35 to go. As played I probably fold to the shove.

i normally do but this is pretty transparent esp against glen.

Hand 2: Fold preflop unless there this is a multiway hand. Also, raise the flop, not the turn, It's not a good card to bluff at. If you get called give up on the river if you don't fill up.

most were mutloway and J9s is decent hidden hand. i maybe should have given up on the river but i doubt he should have called. i though raising the flop would be a REALLY bad line too.