1/2 NL SE Hand last night - opinions HJ and others please

HeeHawsCantona

very early in the night 8 handed and I'm on the BB Ad2d
1 limper (Marcus foreign chap with a Goatie - very tight but I wasn't fully aware of this at the time), Cut off raises to 12, SB calls as do I and Marcus.
Flop 345 rainbow
SB checks, I bet 25, Marcus raises to 65 folded back to me (he's playing 660 and I easily cover)
I raise to 200 and after a small hesitation he pushes

I?
In particular what do you make of my bet sizing?

Flushdraw

So you're asking who you want to give opinions on the hand? Dont be picky!!

Fold Preflop...

This is similar to Bottomfeeders post earlier. Theres no way on earth Marcus should have 67 here so i'm never folding. Easy call.

I like your bet sizing btw

Lazare

From my experience I wouldn't class Marcus as 'very' tight. Your line looks good to me, I'd prolly lead out for 30 but other than that your bet sizing seems fine. As played, I call, he has a set a lot more often than the nuts here.

HeeHawsCantona

sorry Tony - opinions welcome from all

Hectorjelly

its just an equity calculation, what hands do you think he turns up with? When you make it 200 its about 450 back to you, giving you around 2:1. So you can call even if you are fairly sure you are beaten (you need 33% equity). If he only turns up with 67 here then you can obviously fold, but even if he only ever has 67s or one of the top two sets its a call, although a marginal one.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

118,800 games 0.005 secs 23,760,000 games/sec

Board: 3c 4d 5h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 61.606% 60.30% 01.30% 71640 1548.00 { 55-44, 76s }
Hand 1: 38.394% 37.09% 01.30% 44064 1548.00 { A2o }

The bet sizes seem fine but I don't really like the raise to 200, this bet seems designed to get rid of any hands you are crushing. Again i would just call the 65 unless I knew this guy is
A) either so tight and predictable he will call my 4 bet with sets and push with straights or
so bad that im happy getting it in here

ianmc38

well if hes tight ship ship ship as obv he's a donk with an overpair. if he has a wider range ie to include 67s etc, then i dont like the flop 3bet

HeeHawsCantona

ianmc38 wrote:

well if hes tight ship ship ship as obv he's a donk with an overpair. if he has a wider range ie to include 67s etc, then i dont like the flop 3bet

Sorry Ian - my opinion 5 hours later would be that he was a bit of a rock but at that time I didnt have any real opinion on him.

Hectorjelly

So what happened in this hand?

RoadSweeper

Hectorjelly wrote:

its just an equity calculation, what hands do you think he turns up with? When you make it 200 its about 450 back to you, giving you around 2:1. So you can call even if you are fairly sure you are beaten (you need 33% equity). If he only turns up with 67 here then you can obviously fold, but even if he only ever has 67s or one of the top two sets its a call, although a marginal one.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

118,800 games 0.005 secs 23,760,000 games/sec

Board: 3c 4d 5h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 61.606% 60.30% 01.30% 71640 1548.00 { 55-44, 76s }
Hand 1: 38.394% 37.09% 01.30% 44064 1548.00 { A2o }

The bet sizes seem fine but I don't really like the raise to 200, this bet seems designed to get rid of any hands you are crushing. Again i would just call the 65 unless I knew this guy is
A) either so tight and predictable he will call my 4 bet with sets and push with straights or
so bad that im happy getting it in here

The OP's cards were sooooooted and will give a little more equity with the runner runner straight flush draw

LuckyLloyd

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Hectorjelly

LuckyLloyd wrote:

lol?

Against Marcus I think you should get it in. He's a very nice guy to play poker with, but I think you can include AA in his range for that action. Which makes it a call I believe.

I like to know how hands turns out, also its a call if his range is just sets and straights, never mind aa

LuckyLloyd

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spectre

I couldn't fold this hand against anyone in the emporium.
Marcus is one of the more solid players on the live scene in Dublin however I have seen him get big stacks in bad from time to time. Call

BigCityBanker

LuckyLloyd wrote:

Against Marcus I think you should get it in. He's a very nice guy to play poker with, but I think you can include AA in his range for that action. Which makes it a call I believe.

I am never ever calling here againt said villian. You are never good when he shoves the flop like this.

He wont shove AA but will stack off over 3 streets with it if you give him the chance and also assuming the board doesnt come 4 to a straight/flush

valor

Is marcus the big ukranian guy? I was told he was a huge nit

ianmc38

valor wrote:

Is marcus the big ukranian guy? I was told he was a huge nit

Oh Jesus that Marcus. Yeah ship it in there all day. He has an overpair or a set like always. Id say he has 67 here 1% of the time. He is the biggets nit of all time.

LuckyLloyd

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BigCityBanker

ianmc38 wrote:

Oh Jesus that Marcus. Yeah ship it in there all day. He has an overpair or a set like always. Id say he has 67 here 1% of the time. He is the biggets nit of all time.

Why do you want to ship it here all day against the biggest nit of all time?

LuckyLloyd

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Flushdraw

Juts for future reference...fold if it was against me..i have 26 or 67 here a lot

HeeHawsCantona

When I bet the flop I thought I saw something in his immediate reaction. When I bet the 200 I was probably folding to a push but when it came I almost called. I folded after maybe 4/5 minutes. He showed 67. I didnt show.
To be honest I wasn't entirely happy with the fold even after I seen the 67 if that makes sense.

Marq

you're all fools. Marcus has 67 like 80% of the time here. he flat calls with all sets and probably folds A2.

BigCityBanker

^^not sure if ur levelling but i have said as much above. hence why i fold in this spot.

jbravado

Marcus is GENIUNLY the biggest rock in Dublin-he rarely gets thAt much in without the goods.If he is losing he MIGHT do this with aa-if hes winning its ALWAYS a fold IMO.

HalfBaked

Marq wrote:

you're all fools. Marcus has 67 like 80% of the time here. he flat calls with all sets and probably folds A2.

The percentage is probably even higher! Your definetly right about the set, he'd flat call with top set on that board about 100% of the time.

pok3rplaya

ship the dollas

Washout

jbravado wrote:

Marcus is GENIUNLY the biggest rock in Dublin-he rarely gets thAt much in without the goods.If he is losing he MIGHT do this with aa-if hes winning its ALWAYS a fold IMO.

agreed...he folded KK face up one night when three bet into preflop.

pok3rplaya

I heard one time he folded in a play money game.