RAF intercepts Russian strike excercise...

OS119

the Royal Air Force this morning intercepted Eight TU-95 'Bear' long-range Maritime strike aircraft.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6981541.stm

"The UK's Royal Air Force has launched fighter jets to intercept eight Russian military planes flying in airspace patrolled by Nato, UK officials say.
Four RAF F3 Tornado aircraft were scrambled in response to the Russian action, the UK's defence ministry said."


video at...
http://itn.co.uk/news/3fe600972f20983fb87869a4f40f4204.html

so, anyone want to buy an Air Force?:D

Steyr

Cold War is back on!!!!:D

Jets please.

purple'n'gold

I wonder what would happen if they (the Russian warplanes) approached Irish air space?
What would we do, send up the government jet?

Manic Moran

That would be far too provocative.

NTM

mike65

Thats the third/fourth such incident in the last month or so.

Mike.

cp251

purplengold wrote:

I wonder what would happen if they (the Russian warplanes) approached Irish air space?
What would we do, send up the government jet?

We would intercept them with our PC9's and terminate them with extreme prejudice. Then declare war and invade Iceland to use as as base in the North Atlantic where we would mount a series of raids on Murmansk until they sue for peace.:cool:

OS119

purplengold wrote:

I wonder what would happen if they (the Russian warplanes) approached Irish air space?
What would we do, send up the government jet?

anything Russian approaching Ireland would be tracked by the NATO AirSpace Control system, it would probably be detected by a combination of the Norwegian, Faroes, Icelandic and UK radar networks and progressively shadowed by the R Norwegian AF, R Danish AF (if operating from the Faroes) and the RAF. its in NATO's interests to shadow such flights anyway, so NATO wouldn't need a request from Ireland to shadow it if it was hanging around the EEZ and access to that area from RAF bases in Scotland wouldn't need to approch Irish airspace anyway. Russian aircraft certainly do fly around Ireland's west coast on their way to the Bay of Biscay and Eastern Atlantic as the North Sea/English Channel route is problematic given that UK and French airspace meet halfway across, and the Irish Sea is out of bounds because of continuous UK airspace between Scotland and NI.

its only illegal if it crosses into national airspace - the 12 mile limit - however given Ireland's new found interests in oil and gas fields off the west coast, but outside strict territorial waters/air space, its probably an idea to keep an eye on such flights. on such occasions - and certainly if instead of the normal 'navigation of international airspace' missions it actually started poking around the fringes of Irish Air space - your only port of call would be the RAF.

Fratton Fred

it's a warning from Puton to Steve McLaren and the England team.:D

OS119

two RNoAF F-16's from Bodo intercepted two Russian Tu-160 BLACKJACK nuclear strike bombers north of Shetland on Friday 14th September, two RAF Tornado F3's from RAF Leuchars also joined the fray.

odonnell

RAF gave them a look at the Typhoon a couple of weeks ago too. nowt to be concerned with id say. All good fun.

Tabnabs

The Norwegian's have been up several times this year already:
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1896792.ece
http://www.f-16.net/news_article2434.html

Steyr

Apparently the Russians are sending up "Blackjacks" now too!!

marco murphy

Dyflin wrote:

The Norwegian's have been up several times this year already:
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1896792.ece
http://www.f-16.net/news_article2434.html

Forgive my ignorance is that a recent photo? Amazed that they still have the red star

odonnell

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/news/newsbeat/galleries/media/pa_typhoon_bear2_420x300.jpg

this one was taken a few weeks back as far as im aware....red star on tail plane also.

Tabnabs

Poblachtach wrote:

Forgive my ignorance is that a recent photo? Amazed that they still have the red star

Your ignorance is excused

Manic Moran

Anyone catch Kevin Myers' take on it?

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/put-the-cold-war-back-on-ice-and-get-those-skies-growling-with-booming-russian-bears-1073110.html

All wise people are now hoping that the cooling relations between the US and Russia become even colder. I do anyway, for two reasons: one because I have a perfectly depraved nostalgia for the Cold War, and two, the Tupolev 95 Bear might soon be again patrolling the skies of the world; and I yearn to see it...

NTM

OS119

the TU-160 Blackjack intercept of last week lasted from way up the Norwegian coast to 55N10W - thats about 40 miles west of Donegal. the accompanying Tornado F3's then had to refuel and 're-intercepted' the TU-160's flying north in a similar area, the time/course/airspeed plot of the Blackjacks indicated that they had probably turned around at about 52N - given their course when the Tornado's left them this means their 'turnaround point' was about 50 miles off the coast of County Clare.

Steyr

OS119 wrote:

the TU-160 Blackjack intercept of last week lasted from way up the Norwegian coast to 55N10W - thats about 40 miles west of Donegal. the accompanying Tornado F3's then had to refuel and 're-intercepted' the TU-160's flying north in a similar area, the time/course/airspeed plot of the Blackjacks indicated that they had probably turned around at about 52N - given their course when the Tornado's left them this means their 'turnaround point' was about 50 miles off the coast of County Clare.

Did we send up the PC9m's? or one of our "Jets"? G5? L45?:rolleyes:

the_syco

Steyr wrote:

Did we send up the PC9m's?

Why bother? Just cos the Tu-95 is a few decades older than our PC-9M's, doesn't mean that they can't go 258km/h faster...:rolleyes:

Victor

Poblachtach wrote:

Forgive my ignorance is that a recent photo? Amazed that they still have the red star

Yeah, they decided to keep the red star when they realised how many they would need to replace.

Steyr wrote:

Apparently the Russians are sending up "Blackjacks" now too!!

Yeah, they found the keys.

Steyr

Victor wrote:

Yeah, they found the keys.

How much Vodka do we need to send to Russia to buy some MiG's? Or Sukhoi's?:D

Fantom

Steyr wrote: »

How much Vodka do we need to send to Russia to buy some MiG's? Or Sukhoi's?:D

You have really bad quality vodka. Plus the fact Russia recently lodged new vodka brand “Russian Standard” and invest 3.000.000 euro into Irish market

IRISH RAIL

/\ /\

There "economic adivsors" are in place

wonder would they sell me a sub
I could do my sean connery russian accent "give me a ping priscilli"

Dyr

awesome, didnt know the sov's were still puting up blackjacks, maybe we'll even see one of them some day of they dare to violate our airspace

OS119

Bambi wrote: »

awesome, didnt know the sov's were still puting up blackjacks, maybe we'll even see one of them some day of they dare to violate our airspace

'Dare'!

and if they do, what are you going to do about it?

are you going to chase this

Tu-160
General characteristics

Crew: 4 (pilot, co-pilot, bombardier, defensive systems operator)
Length: 54.1 m (177 ft 6 in)
Wingspan:

Spread (20° sweep): 55.70 m (189 ft 9 in)
Swept (65° sweep): 35.60 m (116 ft 10 in)
Height: 13.10 m (43 ft 0 in)
Wing area:

Spread: 400 m² (4,310 ft²)
Swept: 360 m² (3,875 ft²)
Empty weight: 110 t (242,000 lb)
Loaded weight: 267 t (590,000 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 275 t (606,000 lb)
Powerplant: 4× Kuznetsov NK-321 turbofans
Dry thrust: 137 kN (30,900 lbf) each
Thrust with afterburner: 245 kN (55,100 lbf) each
Performance

Maximum speed: Mach 2.05[22] (2,220 km/h, 1,380 mph, 1,200 knots) at high altitude
Range: 17,400 km (9,400 nm, 10,800 mi) unrefueled
Combat radius: 10,500 km (5,670 NM, 6,500 mi)
Service ceiling 15,000 m (49,200 ft)
Rate of climb: 70 m/s (13,860 ft/min)
Wing loading: 743 kg/m² with wings fully swept (152 lb/ft²)
Thrust/weight: 0.37
Armament


2 internal bays for 40,000 kg (88,200 lb) of ordnance, options include:
2 internal rotary launchers each holding 6× Raduga Kh-55 cruise missiles (primary armament) or 12× Raduga Kh-15 short-range nuclear missiles
Subsonic L/D is 18.5-19, while supersonic it is above 6.[23]

with this?

PC-9


General characteristics
Crew: one or two pilots
Capacity: two seats (tandem)
Length: 10.70 m (35 ft 1 in)
Wingspan: 10.12 m (33 ft 2 in)
Height: 3.26 m (10 ft 8 in)
Wing area: 16.3 m² (175 ft²)
Empty: 1,685 kg (3,715 lb)
Loaded: 2,250 kg (4,950 lb)
Maximum takeoff: 3,200 kg (7,055 lb)
Powerplant: 1x Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6A-62 turboprop, 708 kW (950 hp) or 857 kW (1150 hp) for PC-9M

Performance
Maximum speed: 320kts (576km/h or 360 mph) or 667km/h for PC-9M
Range: 1,642 km (1,020 miles)
Service ceiling: 11,580 m (38,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 1,247 m/min (4,090 ft/min)
Wing loading: 138 kg/m² (28 lb/ft²)
Power/Mass: 0.31 kW/kg (0.19 hp/lb)
Take-off distance over 50 ft (15 m) obstacle at sea level: 1,300 ft (397 m)
Landing distance over 50 ft (15 m) obstacle at sea level 2,255 ft (687 m)
Max. rate of climb, sea level: 3,880 ft/min (19.7 m/sec)
Max. operating speed (Vmo) 320 KCAS (593 km/h)
Max. cruise speed at sea level: 271 KTAS (502 km/h)
Max. cruise speed at 10,000 ft 298 KTAS (552 km/h)
Stall speed:
- flaps and gear up (Vs) 76 KCAS (141 km/h)
- flaps and gear down (Vso) 67 KCAS (124 km/h)

g loads Aerobatic Utility
- Max. positive + 7.0 g + 4.5 g
- Max. negative – 3.5 g – 2.25 g


Max. range 860 NM (1,593 km)

Armament
dedicated variants can carry up to 1,040 kg of unguided rockets, bombs and machine guns

'coz i'd pay good money to watch that!

Dyr

hhmm I might have to start using irony tags for some people.....:pac:

OS119

possibly....

didn't mean to piss on you, its just that there are some frightfully ignorant people floating about.

i realise now that you aren't one of them...

Fantom

OS119 wrote: »

the Royal Air Force this morning intercepted Eight TU-95 'Bear' long-range Maritime strike aircraft.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6981541.stm

"The UK's Royal Air Force has launched fighter jets to intercept eight Russian military planes flying in airspace patrolled by Nato, UK officials say.
Four RAF F3 Tornado aircraft were scrambled in response to the Russian action, the UK's defence ministry said."


video at...
http://itn.co.uk/news/3fe600972f20983fb87869a4f40f4204.html

so, anyone want to buy an Air Force?:D

Have a look at this one
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=221240&tid=60533

iceage

I would but my bloody Russian is a bit rusty!!! and not a case of if they'll infringe on Irish airspace but when... we could always use harsh language. And as for buying Soviet surplus, if you buy 2, you'll get the 3rd one free!




(offer doesn't apply to Akula class Subs or any other promotional ticket offers, calls may be recorded for training purposes!)

Fantom

OS119 wrote: »

'Dare'!

and if they do, what are you going to do about it?

are you going to chase this

Tu-160
General characteristics

Crew: 4 (pilot, co-pilot, bombardier, defensive systems operator)
Length: 54.1 m (177 ft 6 in)
Wingspan:

Spread (20° sweep): 55.70 m (189 ft 9 in)
Swept (65° sweep): 35.60 m (116 ft 10 in)
Height: 13.10 m (43 ft 0 in)
Wing area:

Spread: 400 m² (4,310 ft²)
Swept: 360 m² (3,875 ft²)
Empty weight: 110 t (242,000 lb)
Loaded weight: 267 t (590,000 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 275 t (606,000 lb)
Powerplant: 4× Kuznetsov NK-321 turbofans
Dry thrust: 137 kN (30,900 lbf) each
Thrust with afterburner: 245 kN (55,100 lbf) each
Performance

Maximum speed: Mach 2.05[22] (2,220 km/h, 1,380 mph, 1,200 knots) at high altitude
Range: 17,400 km (9,400 nm, 10,800 mi) unrefueled
Combat radius: 10,500 km (5,670 NM, 6,500 mi)
Service ceiling 15,000 m (49,200 ft)
Rate of climb: 70 m/s (13,860 ft/min)
Wing loading: 743 kg/m² with wings fully swept (152 lb/ft²)
Thrust/weight: 0.37
Armament


2 internal bays for 40,000 kg (88,200 lb) of ordnance, options include:
2 internal rotary launchers each holding 6× Raduga Kh-55 cruise missiles (primary armament) or 12× Raduga Kh-15 short-range nuclear missiles
Subsonic L/D is 18.5-19, while supersonic it is above 6.[23]

with this?

PC-9


General characteristics
Crew: one or two pilots
Capacity: two seats (tandem)
Length: 10.70 m (35 ft 1 in)
Wingspan: 10.12 m (33 ft 2 in)
Height: 3.26 m (10 ft 8 in)
Wing area: 16.3 m² (175 ft²)
Empty: 1,685 kg (3,715 lb)
Loaded: 2,250 kg (4,950 lb)
Maximum takeoff: 3,200 kg (7,055 lb)
Powerplant: 1x Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6A-62 turboprop, 708 kW (950 hp) or 857 kW (1150 hp) for PC-9M

Performance
Maximum speed: 320kts (576km/h or 360 mph) or 667km/h for PC-9M
Range: 1,642 km (1,020 miles)
Service ceiling: 11,580 m (38,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 1,247 m/min (4,090 ft/min)
Wing loading: 138 kg/m² (28 lb/ft²)
Power/Mass: 0.31 kW/kg (0.19 hp/lb)
Take-off distance over 50 ft (15 m) obstacle at sea level: 1,300 ft (397 m)
Landing distance over 50 ft (15 m) obstacle at sea level 2,255 ft (687 m)
Max. rate of climb, sea level: 3,880 ft/min (19.7 m/sec)
Max. operating speed (Vmo) 320 KCAS (593 km/h)
Max. cruise speed at sea level: 271 KTAS (502 km/h)
Max. cruise speed at 10,000 ft 298 KTAS (552 km/h)
Stall speed:
- flaps and gear up (Vs) 76 KCAS (141 km/h)
- flaps and gear down (Vso) 67 KCAS (124 km/h)

g loads Aerobatic Utility
- Max. positive + 7.0 g + 4.5 g
- Max. negative – 3.5 g – 2.25 g


Max. range 860 NM (1,593 km)

Armament
dedicated variants can carry up to 1,040 kg of unguided rockets, bombs and machine guns

'coz i'd pay good money to watch that!

You don't have to.

http://rutube.ru/tracks/1019540.html

concussion

Beautiful aircraft, it would be my pleasure to blow them out of the sky :p

Conor108

You can use Google Translate to translate those Russian links. Just copy and paste the address in.

iceage

IRISH RAIL wrote: »

/\ /\

There "economic adivsors" are in place

wonder would they sell me a sub
I could do my sean connery russian accent "give me a ping priscilli"

Naw,,, I prefer Irish rail's version in Red october.;) just sounds better.....

Fantom

Here is another one. You can take a tour

http://gototheedge.wordpress.com/

Fantom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BoaJkWiqPU&feature=related

http://gototheedge.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/the-video/

Zuiderzee

Bambi wrote: »

awesome, didnt know the sov's were still puting up blackjacks, maybe we'll even see one of them some day of they dare to violate our airspace

I think dare does not even come into it - we have no way of independently policing Irish Airspace, a few short range Swedish missiles and guns do not an air policing - let alone defence polcy - make.

I am not sure of the 12 mile limit on Airspace, 50 miles west of Donegal/Slyne head certainly falls well within Irish Air Traffic control

http://ec.europa.eu/transport/air_portal/traffic_management/ses/doc/fabs/irish.ppt#1

Surely that - if not cleared in advance - is a violation of ATC rules and regs.

Basicaly, anyone who wishes to use our airspace for any reason whatsoever can do so, pretty much with impunity.
It is really a joke.

williambonney

The Royal Air force looks after our air defence needs. We do not have an air force. All we have is an army air corps with a few propeller driven aircraft that are incapable of intercepting ………………….. Anything really.

Fantom

Here is yours chance. Brave buddy.

http://gototheedge.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/the-video/