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The 10 Sickest Films of All Time

  • 06-09-2007 10:59am
    #1
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    I'm bored in work and I came across this list. Do you agree with the list, how many have you seen and what did you think of them?

    http://blogs.ign.com/Horror_Brain/2006/06/29/23243/

    I have only seen one of them, Cannibal Holocaust and tbh I didn't think it was that disturbing. The real animal slaughter was a bit much but other than that there wasn't much to it. I have been meaning to watch Irreversible and Ichi the Killer but I think I will be staying well clear of the other :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    I haven't seen any of them. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭The Freeman


    only ever watched Cannibal Holocaust and same as yourself, it was only the scene where they kill the turtle it was slightly disburting besides that not much to be honest, watched itchi and taught it was tooo cartoony to be scary tbh, itchi 2 is good craic if anybody haven't watched it

    never had the balls to watch irreversible.


    i'd put requim for a dream up there for one of the most disturbing/powerful films imo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,987 ✭✭✭Auvers


    i'd put requim for a dream up there for one of the most disturbing/powerful films imo

    aye I was thinking the same thing when I saw the thread title that and Bad Boy Bubby (well the first half of the movie)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    Ah I'm disappointed, I've only seen three of them. Never heard of the top 3 I must admit.

    Irreversible really only has two 'sick' scenes, I think some of the movies that got an honourable mention are worse on the whole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Pugsley


    Surprised Visitor Q wasnt in the top 10 (it got an honourable mention though), it was far more sick and disturbing than Ichi, which was entirely too much fun to be in anyway disgusting, Cannibal Holocaust is where it shold be though, nice and high up, very sick film. Might get my hands on some of the top3, I have to admit I'm damn curious :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    I've seen six of them, and actually never heard of the movies in the winning 3 slots.

    Men behind the Sun was a good film, but I thought 120 Days of Sodom was actually a dreadful and boring film, didn't find it either sick or interesting in the slightest. Same for Ichi the Killer, stupid and way overrated film.

    Cannibal Holocaust is another pretty good one, very realistic.

    The Guinea Pig films really are sick though, and there are plenty of them.

    As for Cannibal Holocaust being not sick at all, have you people definitely seen the uncut version and not the edited one? Because that really was a disturbing film and very realistic, how to imagine how anyone could not find it so...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    I'll be frank when I say I don't care how sick a film is. This is easily one of the more pointless top 10s I've read. I think part of that is because when we consider a film like Flower Of Flesh And Blood, it's a pointless excersize in gore, and probably not of much interest to anyone beyond those that are wowed by such SFX wizardry. Essentially, it plays like a demo reel from a SFX company.

    Also, why are so many people here talking about how disturbing films are? 'Sick' is not the same as disturbing. I'd call a lot of films by David Lynch and Shinya Tsukamoto disturbing, but probably never consider them sick as such. It's a very different attribute, so Requiem For A Dream may certainly be disturbing and powerfull, is it really anything like Cannibal Holocaust.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    Auvers wrote:
    aye I was thinking the same thing when I saw the thread title that and Bad Boy Bubby (well the first half of the movie)

    damn you auvers, i'd wiped that movie from my memory for all these years and you've brought it bubbling back to the top again. What a sick movie.

    Like the dude said, there's a difference between sick and disturbing. For me the last movie I watched that I thought was truly sick was Saw 3. Pointless gore and mutilation for the sake of it, filmed purely to repulse the audience.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Gozu would be better than Ichi the killer!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭The Freeman


    I'll be frank when I say I don't care how sick a film is. This is easily one of the more pointless top 10s I've read. I think part of that is because when we consider a film like Flower Of Flesh And Blood, it's a pointless excersize in gore, and probably not of much interest to anyone beyond those that are wowed by such SFX wizardry. Essentially, it plays like a demo reel from a SFX company.

    Also, why are so many people here talking about how disturbing films are? 'Sick' is not the same as disturbing. I'd call a lot of films by David Lynch and Shinya Tsukamoto disturbing, but probably never consider them sick as such. It's a very different attribute, so Requiem For A Dream may certainly be disturbing and powerfull, is it really anything like Cannibal Holocaust.

    i see your point karl...

    i think one of the fundamental tools that directors make use of in those 2 categories above(sick and disturbing) is violence...


    i think violence and gore should be used in proper fashion to increase emotional/sensory impact in a scene/story arc, explains a character etc. as regards to a sensationalist director being violent just for the media impact and advertising that follows thus creating a mass of people attracted to these sort of movies


    a good use of violence that springs to mind is the likes of seven, fight club,wild at heart, reservoir dogs

    and on the other hand the likes of hostel and cannibal holocoust


    i would almost guarantee that 95% of people wouldn't have bothered with hannibal holocust only for those 3-4 gory scenes in the movie


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Ive only seen Irreversible and Ichi the Killer from that list.

    I'm suprised Jaws the Revenge wasn't on the list. it sickens me to think the masterpiece that was Jaws spawned such a bad movie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    Seen Salo on two occassions. Mid '70s movie that is offensive but also intelligent and quite good. Made by a world-class director (Pasolini) it details the sexual and physical torture of a group of young people. The kind of movie you'll never see funded by the Irish Film Board.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Nolanger wrote:
    The kind of movie you'll never see funded by the Irish Film Board.
    A good movie? :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Spunge


    salo and cannibal holocaust are quite sick.
    ichi is pretty gory, wasnt shocked much.
    irreversible, didnt find too sick, rape scene bad enough i guess.

    havent seen any others.

    nekromantik is supposed to be quite sick but havent seen it yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,473 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Irreversable I would consider disturbing more over then sickening, the fire extinguisher scene I found kind of fascinating as I felt it was very realistic. The rape scene just disturbed me, more so what he did after he had finished, that was just messed up! Noe did use that pulsating pounding sound used by the french police to breakup riots, that actually made me feel sick in the stomach.
    But with regards to sick films, I would recommend someone tracks down a dvd called terrorism riots and deaths which is basically real footage of acts listed in the title, a lot of executions and stuff one in Afgansitan really messed me up as the shoot a suspected bomber and he doesnt die so they shoot him in the face, now that messed me up as it was real and not some movie.

    Snake


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭Deliverance


    For me as a horror fest, it has to be 'Braindead'. The australian horror vehicle is gorey stuff. Was that Peter Jackson? I can't believe that this film was not banned over other films that were. The lawnmower scene and the dripping pus soup scenes were F'ing disgusting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    The ear/soup scene in Braindead had my brother running to the toilet to get sick. I loved the priest kicking ass bit in that movie. Had me in stitches. Overall though, it's just a pointless gore fest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Oh come on, Braindead was not sick, it's cartoonish gore. If you think otherwise hasn't seen any truly sick movies, like those mentioned in the top 10 that was linked.

    And for that matter, the gore in Braindead was not pointless by any measure, it was excessive for comic effect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    After reading the list I thought I'd give August Underground’s Mordum a try.

    It's certainly a pretty pathetic piece of film. They've tried as hard as possible to make it look like an authentic series of snuff movies, but luckily the horrendous acting stands in the way. The film just tries way too hard to shock and just comes across being pretty sad in it's attempts. You can just see the brainstorming session at work to try and come up with the sickest things possible to put in... "Hey guys... I know what... lets have a scene where a guy rapes a little girls corpse in a bath tub"

    There's absolutely no plot or much of an attempt at characterisation by the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭Deliverance


    Oh come on, Braindead was not sick, it's cartoonish gore. If you think otherwise hasn't seen any truly sick movies, like those mentioned in the top 10 that was linked.

    And for that matter, the gore in Braindead was not pointless by any measure, it was excessive for comic effect.
    So gore is not a factor then? Maybe some more moral issues like 'the woodsman'?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    So gore is not a factor then? Maybe some more moral issues like 'the woodsman'?

    Gore could be a factor, but it's all down to how it's used. Gore used for comic effect is hardly the same as when it's used in a film like Hostel, for example. Something cartoonish and silly is seriously nowhere near as sick as something that's more serious and realistic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    HavoK wrote:
    As for Cannibal Holocaust being not sick at all, have you people definitely seen the uncut version and not the edited one? Because that really was a disturbing film and very realistic, how to imagine how anyone could not find it so...
    All the animals that were killed in Canninal Holocaust were real. Also, all the blood, guts and gore used for human killings came from animals. For me, that's what makes Cannibal Holocaust the sickest film I've ever seen, simply because it's something no director would dare repeat these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭sme


    how can you have a top 10 of this type. its very subjective eg. if you are a butcher or work in a slaughter house you wouldn't give a crap that real animals were used for cannobal holocaust (which is a crap film)

    if you watch lots of torture porn films like saw or hostel it will take more to be deemed sick for every subsequent film you watch. but if you had never seen any films of this type a dull example of this genre might seem outrageously sick.

    imo i think gozu and vistor q are reasonably sick, they have good shock value for the first time viewer but i wouldn't have any problem watching them at any time. but i wouldn't watch a film like audition before going to sleep, its just f'ed up but its not sick. more disturbing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    sme wrote:
    how can you have a top 10 of this type. its very subjective eg. if you are a butcher or work in a slaughter house you wouldn't give a crap that real animals were used for cannobal holocaust (which is a crap film)

    Every genre is subjective, and any top 10 is ultimately pointless, but I don't think that 'Sickest' is any more pointless than 'Best' or any other merits by which a film can be judged.
    sme wrote:
    if you watch lots of torture porn films like saw or hostel it will take more to be deemed sick for every subsequent film you watch. but if you had never seen any films of this type a dull example of this genre might seem outrageously sick.

    Dear god I hate the term torture porn. Besides, whatever about Hostel, I don't think Saw should be compared to it, because it's more of a thriller than anything else, and the gore content is quite low. Honestly, I just can't figure how it gets lumped into this new fangled 'Video Nasty' craze that people call torture porn, because I think it's a decent film with a well written and compelling storyline (up towards the end, at least).
    sme wrote:
    imo i think gozu and vistor q are reasonably sick, they have good shock value for the first time viewer but i wouldn't have any problem watching them at any time. but i wouldn't watch a film like audition before going to sleep, its just f'ed up but its not sick. more disturbing.

    Yeah, Takashi Miike's films are quite sick and disturbing on some levels, but I find the storyline often elevates his films far above such trashy films like Cannibal Holocaust, and his films could often be used as a good argument as to why certain levels of gore are necessary. That said, I don't think "Necessary" should come into the vocabulary when we're discussing an artform like film, because film itself isn't exactly necessary in the universal sense. But he does certainly create some very intelligent films that happen to feature extreme levels of violence and disturbing imagery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    torture porn

    Also, gorenography. The original Saw might not be a shining example of it, but subsequent films in the series certainly were. I for one can't wait until Hollywood stops pushing **** like Hostel and Saw II on us.


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