2 legs, 2 feet, Ohh and 2 hands

AmarilloFats

2/4 Party.
Villain is 20/12/?. have not played much with him. seems to be a nit winner..
my image would be meh abc..

Dealt to HERO [ Ks, Kh ] UTG

I make it 16 villain calls in the big blind

** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6h, 3d, Jc ]

trtoking bets (30) ---- Villain leads, no draws out there so I just call.
HERO calls (30)


** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7h ]
trtoking bets (60)

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my goodness!
HERO calls (60)
** Dealing River ** : [ 7c ]

trtoking bets (220) ---

Hero - Easy fold?





Relative stacks 400
villain is a LAG - 30/20/3.5




Dealt to HERO [ As, Qd ]

HERO raises (16) to 16 UTG +1

2 calls

** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8s, 7d, Qs ]
rienvn checks.
HERO bets (40)
mieppaulusma calls (40)
rienvn folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Jh ]

HERO checks.
mieppaulusma bets (88)
HERO calls (88)

** Dealing River ** : [ Qh ]
HERO checks.
mieppaulusma bets (199)


HEro?!?!?!?

cooker3

Hand 1, you played it so weakly postflop, it looks much more like you have tens or nines then kings. He has played it really strong though but you have also played weak, meh I probably call because I am a station but I don't mind a fold.

Hand 2

I prefer to bet this river, as played push

Killme00

Hand 1: it certainly looks like a set except he bet the flop, surely he would let you shoot yourself if he had a set. Call, he has AJ!

Hand 2: i would call :eek:

Edit to add: Why is everything a raise or fold decision?

cardshark202

Hand 1: I would fold
Hand 2: Raise all in

opr

I fold hand 1.

I call the river in hand 2.

Opr

ianmc38

Hand 1 is a definite fold for me.

Hand 2 is close IMO. I'd be 50-50 on whetehr to fold or call. The fact he's so aggro would make me lean towards calling but I think you're beat here a ton.

fuzzbox

1. turbo muck. Your hand is clearly 1-pair, and he is firing like crazy. Its not a bluff enough to make you call, especially against this guy.

2. At least call, maybe just put the rest in.

AmarilloFats

What about the play pre-river!!??


1: I folded
2: I went all in he had QJ ..boo

Gholimoli

hand one i would fold the turn .or some time i would raise the flop and shut down if called.i dont like the call on the flop and the turn against a tight guy.
nothing has really changed on the river in terms of his hand and if anything your hand has improved on the river with the second 7 so i dont understand the call on the turn and the fold now.
i do think you are beat though so folding is correct.

hand 2 ship it.

AmarilloFats

Gholimoli wrote:

hand one i would fold the turn .or some time i would raise the flop and shut down if called.i dont like the call on the flop and the turn against a tight guy.
nothing has really changed on the river in terms of his hand and if anything your hand has improved on the river with the second 7 so i dont understand the call on the turn and the fold now.
i do think you are beat though so folding is correct.

hand 2 ship it.

thanks - he never has 2 pair or a 7 on the flop so the turn and river pairing the board is inconsquential -
I prefer to just call the flop bet since board is so dry...
on the turn I think he mmmiighht still have AJ, QQ ..I just can't fold KK to his turn can I???

Van Dice

I agree with everyone above, fold 1 and I think shoving hand 2 is definitely superior to calling.
I don't think you can fold KK on the turn, his range changes quite a bit between his turn lead and his river bet imo. He could still easily be betting AJ/QQ or worse on the turn, but his river bet isn't consistent with any hand you beat given how the hand played out. Unless he's good enough to bluff with AJ there, but that's very unlikely

coillcam

Hand 1

Villain has 66/33 much more often than AJ here, I'd feel he folds AJ PF OOP mostly/always vs your ABC image as he seems tight. So IMO only QQ we are ahead of. A reluctant turn fold and a definite river fold for me.

Hand 2:

The turn is a decent card for him to float but its very unlikely to happen 3-way at all. That said I don't think/know if he would fire a river bet if he was actually floating and got called on the turn. So I suppose 9T and other Q's are in his range as I'd imagine a flop raise from sets when 3-way on such a draw laden board, not laying down trips here though, just a call.

Gholimoli

AmarilloFats wrote:

thanks - he never has 2 pair or a 7 on the flop so the turn and river pairing the board is inconsquential -
I prefer to just call the flop bet since board is so dry...
on the turn I think he mmmiighht still have AJ, QQ ..I just can't fold KK to his turn can I???

i agree that he does not have two pair on the flop and 7 has not improved your hand.
i was just trying to point out that it has not improved his so hands remain the same from turn to river.

im also not against flat calling the flop at all,however raising has its merits as well.
however i am against flat calling multiple streets against tight players.
you describe his as a nit and i doubt some1 like that will be leading multiple streets with out having you beat here and that's why i dont think the turn call is good.
you said your self the board is dry so just as you know he is not drawing ,he knows you are not drawing either but he is still betting !