Some 100nl Hands From Monday

dvdfan · 04-09-2007 12:02pm #1

Hand 1

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Button stephen68 ($80.30)
SB ImYourGodNow ($106.65)
BB Anne1988 ($201.65)
UTG tommyteddy ($152.75)
UTG+1 Hero ($201.85)
CO manitbois1 ($94.95)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Kc As
1 fold, Hero raises to 3.50, 3 folds, Anne1988 raises to 15.00, Hero calls 12.50.

Flop (32.50) Td 6h Ah
Anne1988 bets 16.00, Hero calls 16.00.

Turn (64.50) Jc
Anne1988 bets 31.00, Hero calls 31.00.

River (126.50) 9s
Anne1988 checks, Hero bets 40.00, Anne1988 calls 40.00

This is probably very standard just wondering if i should be raising at any point because of the weak flop and turn bets, just couldnt see a hand that i beat that would call a raise and letting him bluff with a worse hand on flop and turn seemed the best option. Were 200 bb deep here btw so hows my river bet and if he comes over the top can i get away from it?

Villain is 28/12/3.3 and ive no reason to think villain is 3betting light. Went to SD 28% Won at SD 80%, i havent done anything out of line on this table and am playing probably 20/14/2.5

Hand 2:

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Button mojo8 ($14.40)
SB myHUchallenge ($100.00)
BB sepi12 ($118.65)
UTG Hero ($99.40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Qc Qh
Hero raises to 3.50, 1 fold, myHUchallenge calls 3.00, sepi12 calls 2.50.

Flop (10.50) 6h 7h 2d
myHUchallenge bets 8.00, 1 fold, Hero raises to 26.00, myHUchallenge calls 18.00.

Turn (62.50) 6s
myHUchallenge moves all-in for 70.50,Hero???

Im not at the table long but i have mined stats
Villain is 23/12/1.23 over 700 hands Went to SD 30% Won at SD 47%

Hand 3:

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Button cohibas16 ($147.81)
SB vastaantulija ($134.50)
BB Hero ($115.10)
UTG wii23and ($98.50)
UTG+1 kumite76 ($109.87)
CO MACFestas ($126.67)

Preflop: Hero is in the BB with 3s 6h
1 fold, kumite76 calls 1.00, 1 fold, cohibas16 calls 1.00, vastaantulija calls 0.50, Hero checks.

Flop (4.00) 3c 8d 6c
vastaantulija checks, Hero bets 4.00, kumite76 raises to 8.00, cohibas16 calls 8.00, 1 fold, Hero calls 4.00.

Turn (28.00) Ah
Hero checks, kumite76 bets 39.00, 1 fold, Hero calls 39.00.

River (106.00) 2d
Hero checks, kumite76 bets 48.00, Hero calls 48.00

Villain is 42/10/1.74 over 600 hands went ot SD 28% Won at SD 51%

Any comments on this hand?

Hand 4:

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Button Fish1337 ($169.20)
SB myHUchallenge ($108.25)
BB partybabe ($121.45)
UTG Hero ($200.35)
UTG+1 kumite76 ($142.25)
CO wii23and ($176.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Kc Ac
Hero raises to 3.50, kumite76 raises to 9.00, 4 folds, Hero calls 5.50.

Flop (19.50) 8c 7c 2s
Hero checks, kumite76 bets 20.00, Hero calls 20.00.

Turn (59.50) 4d
Hero checks, kumite76 bets 52.00, Hero moves all-in for 171.35, kumite76 moves all-in for 61.25

Ok i played this as spewy as i possibly could, actually i played a few hands bad yesterday but i still maanged to finish up 2BI but i should have been up alot more, in this scenario if i feel i dont have much folding equity i should just fold this flop or should i just call the flop and fold any unimproved turn? I feel the villan cant fold AA-QQ here unless an overcard appears so i do have implied odds on the flop. I played it really horrible any advice?

Villain is same as above and this 2 hand happened almost simultaneously so i hadnt see anything much shown down that would give me a read?
Villain is 42/10/1.74 over 600 hands went ot SD 28% Won at SD 51%

Will report results this evening

opr · 05-09-2007 1:37pm

Hand1 : I think you played the hand well and your reasoning and thought process for your line is good imo.

Hand2 : I call expecting to see lots of random crap that we beat at these levels.

Hand3 : Its a really scary board in a limped pot and i don't like playing the 2 remaining streets OOP against this guy not knowing what i want to see. So i make a decision one way or another if i am good or not on the flop and go with it. In this case i raise the flop again after he min raises and am happy to call a push against a guy with those stats.

Hand2 : This depends alot on what i think this guys 3 bet range is here. If i think he may be 3 betting me light i may just raise the flop and get it all in.

If not yeah i prolly call the flop and c/f the turn unimproved. As you say yourself playing the turn this way is just spew.

Opr

cardshark202 · 05-09-2007 1:59pm

Hand 1: I think you can fold this preflop, his range for 3betting you oop after you raised is quite tight imo. As played, I think you should bet a little more on the river, like 65-75.
Hand 2: I would call now, but I would often just call the flop vs a guy with that AF
Hand 3: You should def fold to this turn bet imo. I think the flop is fine.
Hand 4: I think raising the turn is bad, you should just fold here imo.

RoadSweeper · 05-09-2007 5:13pm

I'll reply to these later as im heading out the door, but just glancing through it, do we need to know the results to hand 3 so we can give a more informed opinion on hand 4, being the same villian and the hands happening simultaneously?

dvdfan · 05-09-2007 6:30pm

RoadSweeper wrote:

I'll reply to these later as im heading out the door, but just glancing through it, do we need to know the results to hand 3 so we can give a more informed opinion on hand 4, being the same villian and the hands happening simultaneously?

They both actually finished simulataneously so i had no extra info at the time so it would be an unfair advantage. Anyway thanks for the replies and heres the results.

Hand 1:

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Button stephen68 ($80.30)
SB ImYourGodNow ($106.65)
BB Anne1988 ($201.65)
UTG tommyteddy ($152.75)
UTG+1 Hero ($201.85)
CO manitbois1 ($94.95)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Kc As
1 fold, Hero raises to 3.50, 3 folds, Anne1988 raises to 15.00, Hero calls 12.50.

Flop (32.50) Td 6h Ah
Anne1988 bets 16.00, Hero calls 16.00.

Turn (64.50) Jc
Anne1988 bets 31.00, Hero calls 31.00.

River (126.50) 9s
Anne1988 checks, Hero bets 40.00, Anne1988 calls 40.00

Hero shows Kc As
Anne1988 shows Kh Kd

Hero wins 206.50 with One pair, Ace

I was a bit worried with JT9 out their as i was only ahead of AQ and KK-QQ of hes range that would bet turn and river or possibly air, i dont know if i would get any more out of any of them 3 hands with a bigger river bet, i taught it was very enticing and weak looking and might get a call out of KK-QQ whereas another $20 or so would have made me look strong. Maybe im wrong or its results based thinking

Hand 2:
Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Button mojo8 ($14.40)
SB myHUchallenge ($100.00)
BB sepi12 ($118.65)
UTG Hero ($99.40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Qc Qh
Hero raises to 3.50, 1 fold, myHUchallenge calls 3.00, sepi12 calls 2.50.

Flop (10.50) 6h 7h 2d
myHUchallenge bets 8.00, 1 fold, Hero raises to 26.00, myHUchallenge calls 18.00.

Turn (62.50) 6s
myHUchallenge moves all-in for 70.50, Hero moves all-in for 69.90.

River (202.90) 5s

myHUchallenge shows Th Ts
Hero shows Qc Qh

Hero wins 202.90 with Two pair, Queen's and Six's with a Seven for a kicker

I usually would fold in this scenario against people with this low of an Aggression factor not because they wont do this with 1 pair but because they wont do it with 1 pair often enough for me to make a profit. I think its unusual to see this shown down for such a passive player, when i called i wasnt happy and i felt i was up against 2 pair or trips and was surprised to see the pot come my way, id probably fold this the next time but just wondering is that a bit too tight.

Hand 3:

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Button cohibas16 ($147.81)
SB vastaantulija ($134.50)
BB Hero ($115.10)
UTG wii23and ($98.50)
UTG+1 kumite76 ($109.87)
CO MACFestas ($126.67)

Preflop: Hero is in the BB with 3s 6h
1 fold, kumite76 calls 1.00, 1 fold, cohibas16 calls 1.00, vastaantulija calls 0.50, Hero checks.

Flop (4.00) 3c 8d 6c
vastaantulija checks, Hero bets 4.00, kumite76 raises to 8.00, cohibas16 calls 8.00, 1 fold, Hero calls 4.00.

Turn (28.00) Ah
Hero checks, kumite76 bets 39.00, 1 fold, Hero calls 39.00.

River (106.00) 2d
Hero checks, kumite76 bets 48.00, Hero calls 48.00

Hero shows 3s 6h
kumite76 shows Ad 8h

kumite76 wins 202.00 with Two pair, Ace's and Eight's with a Six for a kicker

I taught this was bad and i agree i can get away from this turn in an unopened pot because well see a set alot here or a bigger 2 pair but i was actually ahead on the flop, i think once i called the turn i was committed. Bad

Hand 4:

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Button Fish1337 ($169.20)
SB myHUchallenge ($108.25)
BB partybabe ($121.45)
UTG Hero ($200.35)
UTG+1 kumite76 ($142.25)
CO wii23and ($176.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Kc Ac
Hero raises to 3.50, kumite76 raises to 9.00, 4 folds, Hero calls 5.50.

Flop (19.50) 8c 7c 2s
Hero checks, kumite76 bets 20.00, Hero calls 20.00.

Turn (59.50) 4d
Hero checks, kumite76 bets 52.00, Hero moves all-in for 171.35, kumite76 moves all-in for 61.25.

River (344.10) 3d

Hero shows Kc Ac
kumite76 shows Ad As

kumite76 wins 344.10 with One pair, Ace

Terrible play, thanks for the advice lads

opr · 05-09-2007 6:56pm

1/ While you say we may only get value from KK and QQ on the river the thing is we now have much more information from the way the whole hand was played to value bet against his range. So when we bet the river we are value betting against the range that the story of the hand has told us our opponent has which is highly weighted towards KK and QQ on the river. I think given this your reason for bet size is good.

2/ To not make the call here getting about 2/1 you have to put him on an exact range of 77,22 or 67. On this kind of board and the way the hand was played i don't think you can do this and he will show up with loads of other stuff to make this profitable. I mean its a weird way for him to play a set on the turn after you have raised the flop.

3/ Maybe i am wrong but i mean a set of 3's or 6's is unlikely so we are beaten by 88 or 6,8 and two unlikely sets. I think we will see stuff like flush draws , straight draws , K8 , A8 against a guy like this alot. I actually don't even think its close and that we are way ahead of his range on the flop.

Opr

TommyGunne · 06-09-2007 12:02pm

FWIW:
1: Fine, well played. Reasoned out well and played very well.

2: You gotta call this and you did. wp. Realistically all that beats you is 77, 66, 76, 22, and sometimes 6x. Turn bet is not overly consistent with any of these. I can't see him holding any of these much in these circumstances.

3: Tough hand. Getting away from the turn here is quite possible. I agree in that your behind on the flop a lot, and if not the turn is a horrible card to see. Only hand you beat on turn is a strangely played draw.

4: Don't like the call on flop. Either fold or make it 60, but leaning towards a fold. Fold turn. You have very little folding equity as he has so little behind, and at most you have roughly 28% hand equity.

Some 100nl Hands From Monday

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