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  • 03-09-2007 1:06pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭


    We have all been there. Playing live. For whatever reason we can see an opponents hole cards when they look at them.

    What is the done thing here?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman


    Personally if it was a cash game I would warn them that you saw their cards and play the hand out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Jaden


    Nice guy - tell him.
    D*ck - it's his fault, punish him accordingly.

    To be honest, it happens so rarely during an actually exploitable situation, that it's hardly worth discussing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭careca


    I would tell them I saw their hand and play mine accordingly. If it happened a second time I would tell them again and inform them that this is the last time I'm letting them know.

    I hate it when it happens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭The_Chopper


    Wombatman wrote:
    We have all been there. Playing live. For whatever reason we can see an opponents hole cards when they look at them.

    What is the done thing here?

    I once saw the guys cards, told him and his reply was "you shouldn't have been looking" and accused me of been a cheater. Needless to say I profited nicely from him for the rest of the night :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    when your heads up tell him his hand negreanu style, people won't mess with you then.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,477 ✭✭✭newbie2


    Happened to me a few times when playing live. I make no apologies but I take full advntage of it. It's up to the player to keep his hands to himself/herself. If they make them available to the person sitting next or next +1 then they deserve to be taught a lesson.

    Does this make me a D##k ? If so then pull me off !!

    PS.
    Is it against the rules to try to look at someones hand?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,902 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Tell him, no matter who the player is. If it happens again, then do what you feel it right depending on how you were treated last time you told him.
    Its nothing to do with cheating, or shouldn't of been looking, if you see a flash of white beside you, instinct is to look first, then think afterwards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 mac1970


    It happened one night with this cocky git,he went all in and i was the only one left(and was about to fold my ace 8) when i saw he was low stacked and had a7 off.I called him and he couldnt believe it,he even said i didn't think there would be any more aces left as i saw one being dumped pre-flop so i didnt feel as guilty catching a glimpse of his hand and i wasnt even looking as i have never saw anyones hand before.I was so close to telling him i saw his hand but he was a good bit bigger than me and might have got angry.Needless to say i took his pot(cash game took 150 of him) and went on to win over a grand that night!! Was i wrong in putting him in his place as he admitted seeing a dumped card:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman


    Newbie under no circumstances should you be trying to look at your opponents cards if it happens inadvertantly fair enough, otherwise it is totally unacceptable imo.

    At the same time every player at the table should make a reasonable attempt to protect their cards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭ionapaul


    I always tell them immediately that I've seen their cards - almost 100% of players will appreciate it! At a live cash table on Saturday night I told one of the table drunks that I could see his cards and one of his buddies tried to buy me a drink for being such a 'decent ol' skin'!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 375 ✭✭kebabfest


    I will always tell the player. As it is usually rookies who do it they appreciate the advice and being told better ways to look at their cards.
    Similiarly even if I see a card to a another player that the dealer shows a glimmer of a card by accident I'll say.
    When at the table I like to play cards and regard looking at other cards as cheating.
    If I saw somebody trying to look at my cards on a regular basis I would punch them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 376 ✭✭The Tourist


    I would tell them the first time.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    It is common courtesy to let someone know, and I would also ask someone to keep their cards down if I thought the person beside them was able to see them but not saying anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭tipp86


    Well depends on the player some can take offence,guess it depends if your going to be involved in the hand as well,i personally wouldnt feel good about taking advantage of the situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭Macspower


    I will always tell the player that I've seen his cards and I normaly fold my hand and tell him I'm folding out of courtesy....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭Theresalwaysone


    Tell them once, make it clear to them that you can see there cards and they should be more careful. It if happens again, they're at fault, play away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭nicnicnic


    If he is holding any of my outs I will include the info in my pot odds calculation


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,476 ✭✭✭Samba


    Out of honesty I will always declare exposed hands to the table, I like a level playing field.

    It's a thankless job, all i've gotten for my honesty in the past is abuse, players often feel you are taking a dig at them for some bizarre reason.

    These days, I point it out to the dealer and let them deal with it :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    I would always tell the player after the hand finishes out if there are others involved in the pot, heads up i would check down my hand unless i get raised and i know i have him crushed:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,472 ✭✭✭AdMMM


    Only happened once to me. The guy to my right looked at his cards and whatever way I was looking down at my cards, I caught a glimpse of his (29o) and he then put in a raise. I was holding 26o so I intended on folding anyway so I didn't see any reason to tell him and I then started looking at my cards in a different way to prevent it happening again.


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