Exit hand from SE 500 event

HeeHawsCantona

Ok I went after about 12 hands last night and while disappointed I was quite happy with how I played this hand although I would maybe fold this 8 times out of 10.
Probably irrelevant but on my first button I faced a raise of 200 and found AK offsuit - flat called. Flop came 9 high with 2 clubs (I had Ac) and called a bet of 300 and folded to a bet of 600 after I missed the turn.

Anyway on my next BB the action went as follows. UTG limps, UTG+1 limps, mid position raises to 225, SB calls and I look down to find AK off again and raise to 625. Its folded to the original raiser who raises to 2525 and SB folds. I have no history with him but obviouly he has a premium hand and my first instinct is to fold but as I study him and this maybe was a misread but I felt he was slightly uncomfortable and I somewhat discount AA.

OK so you cant flat call here can you? I straight away weigh up shove or fold.

I felt that if I push I will probably get AK QQ or a lower pair to fold and the way the hand was played & considering it was level one KK might just fold also. Would anyone fold KK here? I felt that I could.

I'm pushing now so I sneaked a couple of looks at my cards, played with the chips a bit, stacked them in one pile and put them over the line.

Boom - instant call and its KK and I'm out.

Is this just bad? Can anyone else play this hand that way?

BuChan

i was at the table for this hand, i was sure you were going to fold and then when you did move in i thought it must have been a bit of a hollywood job with AA. i don't think you need to get 200BBs in with AK, 99% people won't fold KK and many won't fold QQ so you're either racing or in trouble and it's somewhat unnecessary considering the structure.

sikes

what are the stacks? I would 3bet bigger preflop anyway but once it back gets back to you, its a pretty easy fold. I doubt that the game is going to play loose/aggro enough to start stacking off with AK pre so deep.

Captain Tom

you should have 3bet more. id make it somewhere between 900 and 1k.

as played fold to the 4 bet. it's early on so people generally wont get outta line, your playing 200bb deep, and you've only been at the table 12 hands so you basically have no read on his play.

i would never assume that he's capable of folding KK here either.

HiCloy

BuChan wrote:

i was at the table for this hand, i was sure you were going to fold and then when you did move in i thought it must have been a bit of a hollywood job with AA. i don't think you need to get 200BBs in with AK, 99% people won't fold KK and many won't fold QQ so you're either racing or in trouble and it's somewhat unnecessary considering the structure.

I was at the table too and agree with the above 100%. I def would have folded.

If I was the other guy I may well have folded KK here to the shove, but most people won't

It was 10k effective stacks

fuzzbox

Just fold to the 4-bet. Hardly anybody 4-bet bluffs, and thats all you beat. Even less ppl 4-bet and then fold their hand.

The Tourist

BuChan wrote:

i don't think you need to get 200BBs in with AK, 99% people won't fold KK and many won't fold QQ so you're either racing or in trouble and it's somewhat unnecessary considering the structure.

I was also at the table and agree with this. I would have folded to the rereraise.

HeeHawsCantona

Yeah when I read my post I hated it - I guess this is why you should never fold KK preflop (Trevor)

a-k-47

Were the blinds at 25/50? so early i just flat call, check fold(take stab on read). No need for the hero action. Lesson learned.

mdwexford

Agree with Captain Tom.

Also lol at people talking about folding K-K in this spot.

HeeHawsCantona

why would you 4 bet more?

a-k-47

'3bet' is ok, rr 4bet is just crazy.