New PANASONIC 1080P plasma TV's

big_moe

Panasonic 42" & 50" 1080p televisions.

EXACT SAME SPECS AS THE PV70 RANGE.

they look IDENTICAL to the PV70s, but have a FULL HD 1920 X 1080p panel in them.

model number: TH-42PY70EY 42 inch & TH-50PY70EY 50 inch

and now the best part, the price!

42" is €1999 and the 50" is only €2699!!!

http://www.allianceelectric.ie/products/tv/plasmalcd/th42py70.htm

http://www.allianceelectric.ie/products/tv/plasmalcd/th50py70.htm

available mid september

moe

Hygro

Which of these plasmas would be the best option in peoples opinion? I've a max budget of 1500euro.

http://www.didstore.com/store_detail.asp?modelcode=TH42PV70EY&subid=196

http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=333814

big_moe

the komplett one (th-42pv700) is better

Hygro

cheers, yeah I thought as much. Didn't know whether they had just different serial numbers or whether they were completly different (the DID site doesn't exactly go into details if you know what I mean).

The only thing is that I'd have to get professionals to hang (once I buy a suitable bracket) the TV and I reckon that could bring the toal up to 2000 (my previous prcing was for this 37 inch Phillips LCD from DID http://www.didstore.com/store_detail.asp?modelcode=37PFL7332&subid=195 and was costing 1630 euro, including bracket and installation).

big_moe

plasma is better than lcd. and panasonic is better than philips so you will have to pay more but the quality will be far better.

the pv70 (DID website) isnt 1080p as it says. the pv700 isnt 1080p either. they are both 1080p compatible, which means they have a 1080i panel, but have the processing of 1080p. i have the pv70, cracking set.

Hygro

The PV70 is the one I saw first and was rubbing my hands with glee until I came across the PV700 with the SD card reader.

I watch a lot of DivX movies and am currently using a phillips 32 CRT with Pixel Plus 2 (it's about 2 years old) and the picture is amazing (even with DivX movies) so much so that I'm making sure that I get a new TV with a quality that's equally as sharp (and smooth if you know what I mean).

I have 2 26inch LCD's also and watching DivX on them isn't great as it gets a bit pixellated and the darker the scene the more pixellated it gets.

I assume that Plasma would have a better picture watching DivX movies than LCD?

big_moe

well plasma is better than lcd in general so it should look good on divx. i have some HD divx vids and they look great on my pv70. panasonic have a new tv coming out ^^^ soon called the PY70, that have SD cards. the SD card isnt a huge thing in fairness.. you can always connect your camera straight up. go into the shop and try the tv with a divx disc and see for yourself.

moe

Hygro

Thanks for all the help moe, must be bugging the hell outta you with these questions!

Just checking around and came across this ...

http://www.allianceelectric.ie/products/tv/plasmalcd/th42pv7.htm

http://www.allianceelectric.ie/products/tv/plasmalcd/th42pv70.htm

The price on both is great, but I'd have to see how much it would cost for the wall mount (since plasmas weigh a lot more than LCDs) and if the shop could arrange for it to be hung, etc (like D.I.D. do). I'm not gonna wreck my viewing pleasure for the sake of 200 euro though

I'll probably take a ramble up to the shop on tuesday and bring a Divx disc and see how it looks. Hopefully they wont give me strange looks when I ask to take a look!!

Hygro

trabpc

thinking about buying this one but I have a few Questions

http://www.allianceelectric.ie/products/tv/plasmalcd/th50py70.htm

Harvey Norman in Naas will get it in for me for €2500

The Guy in harvey's tells me it is the same model as the 50pz70 in england but without the Freeview and it has a different Frequency uhf I think.

Now from reading up on the various Forums over on uk web sites like below

http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=612803

It says that the 42/50pz70 is a slightly newer panel than the 42/50pz700.

The 42/50pz70 as only 2 Hdmi's and weaker sound but as its slighty newer it can take 1080p @24

this should have an advantage as when trusted reviews reviewed the 42pz700 in july the 1080p 24 was the only negative point see below

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/review/2007/07/30/Panasonic-Viera-TH-42PZ700B-42in-Plasma-TV/p1.

Does any one know if this Irish model th 50py70 is the same as uk 50pz70 or has anyone bought same.

If it is the same as the uk version i will be ordering it this month as all panasonic plasmas ordered in Oct come with a 5Yr warrinty.

Any views welcome as i have been searching for a plasma for the last year.

big_moe

the TH-50PY70 (Ireland) & TH-50PZ70 (UK) are the same model apart from the freeview tuner. in the UK it has a UHF/Freeview tuner. for Ireland it has a UHF/VHF tuner.

the panel in the PY70/PZ70 is newer than the the PZ700, but that doesnt necessarily mean it's better. i've seen them both side by side and the pz700 is sharper and brighter. colours.... hmmmmm... its harder to tell! very little difference. the PY70/PZ70 has a higher contrast ratio than the PZ700 which makes for very impressive colours...

it's a difficult choice! it really comes down to your budget, the PZ700 has a few nice features over the PY70/PZ70.

the SD slot on the pz700 can do video, whereas the py70 can only shows pics. a 3rd scart on the pz700 and a 3rd HDMI on it as well. and the better sound.

the quality of the picture is hard to judge.... as i said PZ700 is better in sharpness/brightness but colours are very similar.

in fairness the PZ700 is a more expensive and the features are worth it... but if it's outside your budget then the PY70 is an excellent set. im thinking of changing my set for one!!

moe

trabpc

Is it possible to get a py700 over here and if so from who.

Thanks Again

Bluefish

trabpc wrote:

The 42/50pz70 as only 2 Hdmi's and weaker sound but as its slighty newer it can take 1080p @24

Can anyone confirm for definite that the panasonic 24PZ70 supports 24fps processing.

Also any heard what picture quality is like in SD

Thanks

Bluefish

big_moe

trabpc wrote:

Is it possible to get a py700 over here and if so from who.

Thanks Again

i guess you mean a PZ700??

50"
http://www.allianceelectric.ie/products/tv/plasmalcd/th50pz700.htm

42"
http://www.allianceelectric.ie/products/tv/plasmalcd/th42pz700.htm

moe

trabpc

No I mean py700. if its possible to get a py70 which is comparable to the uk pz70 i presume the py700 is the same as the uk pz700.
or is there no py700 modell over here at all.

big_moe

there's no such thing as a py700.

the difference between the pz70 and py70 is a compatible tuner for ireland. there is no version of the pz700 with a compatible tuner for ireland. so you would need digital tv for the pz700.

moe

trabpc

http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=333812

ah! google is great . wonder is this it?

big_moe

trabpc wrote:

http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=333812

ah! google is great . wonder is this it?

jaysus, i stand corrected! i've never heard of that model. its not even on the panasonic german site (which is where komplett get most of their TVs from). it has everything the PZ700 has though.

i'd be a bit wary about it though... guarantee wise. it wont have the 5 year warranty either.

moe

kamin99

Bluefish wrote: »

Can anyone confirm for definite that the panasonic 24PZ70 supports 24fps processing.

Also any heard what picture quality is like in SD

Thanks

Bluefish

Yeh as Bluefish said can anyone confirm if the TH50PY70 can accept 1080p/24fps or not cause the Pioneer PDP-LX508D can
thanks

drewmcm

only 2 hdmi is a no go

trabpc

intresting topic

http://whathifi.com/forums/t/3921.aspx?PageIndex=2

seems it does support 24fps

trabpc

Actually they made a mistake see page 8 of article

It does not support it!

enfant terrible

Bought the 50PY70 today.
Got it for €2700 with table stand.

phog

drewmcm wrote: »

only 2 hdmi is a no go

Slightly off topic but here goes ...... Will there not be an expansion adaptor available for the HDMIs? When USB came on the market on PCs first there was only one, the next generation of PCs had multiples and now there are assloads of adaptors available.

mathias

Will there not be an expansion adaptor available for the HDMIs?

There are plenty available already , though a bit on the expensive side , digital signals must be cleanly switched you see or it can play havoc.

I seen a two port switch in arnotts today , 65 euro , and a four port switch in maplins for 120 euro ,

By far the best way though , is to make sure your AV amp does the job , the new Onkyo range all have HDMI switching , from the 605 up ,

http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?class=Receiver&m=TX-SR605&p=i

whowantstwoknow

Hi all,

As we have completed a recent extension to the house, my wife is looking to add a TV to a new room. Alot of the specifications go over my head, but from reading this and other threads I get the impression big moe knows a thing or two and seems to give good common sense answer to questions. So here goes with what we have, and would appreciate advice as to which of the mentioned panasonic tvs would best suit our needs:

1) We have chorus digital TV, I assume this isnt a HD feed and just a SD feed. To be honest at our age we dont live for HD or really high quality pictures, but are happy with a good sharp clean picture

2) Dont have any ps3 etc.. and the kids are so young that these would be an issues for at least 5-7 years time. Neither adult is a gamer, we dont have the time!!!

3) I intend to use my Arcam AVR200 amp to provide the surround sound 5:1 feed to a satellite speaker system.

4) I plan to buy/built a HTPC with media centre, that houses a tv tuner for recording content, and a dvd player. Is all this blue-ray stuff important should I consider such a drive for the HTPC? we have no real HD DVD content but perhaps that will change over time, i.e from a retail perspective..

5) Max TV size for the room (which is 6m x 4m aprox) would probably be 42". So with the above in mind what sort of I/O on the TV should be considered/important?

And finally, big moe which TV would you recommend? In addition I see you mentioned getting a 5 YEAR manufacturer warranty if purchased before Xmas, is this just from retail outlets?

Thanks for your time and any advice.

Cheers

Mike

big_moe

for what you want i think the TH-42PV70 will do the job. the th-42PY70 is a great tv as wel, the main difference is the "full hd" resolution of the panel. to be honest, you need a very sharp eye to be able to see the difference at 42"... and if you're not using blu ray then you wont see the difference.

the pv70 has 2 HDMI (HD connections), 2 scart, component (some DVD players have this connection, better than scart) & pc input. and yes, you can get the 5 year warranty from retail outlets

moe

ongarite

big_moe wrote: »

for what you want i think the TH-42PV70 will do the job. the th-42PY70 is a great tv as wel, the main difference is the "full hd" resolution of the panel. to be honest, you need a very sharp eye to be able to see the difference at 42"... and if you're not using blu ray then you wont see the difference.

the pv70 has 2 HDMI (HD connections), 2 scart, component (some DVD players have this connection, better than scart) & pc input. and yes, you can get the 5 year warranty from retail outlets

moe

Hi big_moe,

just bought PV70 from the guys in Alliance Electric this afternoon. Pleasure doing business there. Very friendly and knowledgible staff.
Looking forward to getting it next week..

andy1249

Pleasure doing business there. Very friendly and knowledgible staff.
Looking forward to getting it next week..

They seem to know their stuff alright , but I dropped into the shop a couple of weeks ago with the intention of picking up a panasonic and the place was a train wreck , cardboard boxes taking up most of the room , extremely untidy , and a big ( Sony Screen I think ) had a the back of a chair shoved into it !

So , didnt fill me with confidence in the way the stock is treated , and ultimately that put me off. I bought in DiD instead.

whowantstwoknow

big_moe wrote: »

for what you want i think the TH-42PV70 will do the job. the th-42PY70 is a great tv as wel, the main difference is the "full hd" resolution of the panel. to be honest, you need a very sharp eye to be able to see the difference at 42"... and if you're not using blu ray then you wont see the difference.

the pv70 has 2 HDMI (HD connections), 2 scart, component (some DVD players have this connection, better than scart) & pc input. and yes, you can get the 5 year warranty from retail outlets

moe

Thanks big moe. Looking to mount the tv on the wall so would any mount do? I dont think I need any sort of tilt?

Mike

mathias

Looking to mount the tv on the wall so would any mount do?

No , any mount will not do , the mount must be rated to hold the weight of the TV and you should over rate this by about 50% to be sure , also make sure you get the measurements of the mounting holes on the set and that the mount you buy can accommodate these measurements , and fix it to the wall with heavy duty rawl plugs.
For a TV that size , expect to spend about 10% of the price on a reliable mount.

ongarite

Got my PV70 delivered from yesterday from Alliance Electric along with the video cabinet and SC-PT850EB surround sound system with optical input for my PS3.
Very happy with the TV, superb picture quality out of box, breaking it in gentle for the first 100hrs.

CLADA

ongarite wrote: »

Got my PV70 delivered from yesterday from Alliance Electric along with the video cabinet and SC-PT850EB surround sound system with optical input for my PS3.
Very happy with the TV, superb picture quality out of box, breaking it in gentle for the first 100hrs.

Any reason why you went for the PV70 over the the PY70 which has the full HD for blu ray on your PS3.

big_moe

CLADA wrote: »

Any reason why you went for the PV70 over the the PY70 which has the full HD for blu ray on your PS3.

i look at tvs in work all day and at 42" i can very rarely see the difference between 720p & 1080p

CLADA

big_moe wrote: »

i look at tvs in work all day and at 42" i can very rarely see the difference between 720p & 1080p

Please Moe!!! I had my mind made up on the PY70 and now you hit me with that

big_moe

well the py70 has extra connections and has better sound and picture

see for yourself, you might have a sharper eye than me!

uncle_sam_ie

Here is the cnet review of the panny full 1080p. http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/panasonic-th-42pz700u/4505-6482_7-32466828.html?tag=pdtl-list

ceejay

I picked up the TH-42PY70 from Alliance Electric just before Christmas, and I have to say it's just fab. We watched a mix HD (movies & football) and SD content from Sky and a couple of DVDs, some Wii and PS3, and it handled them all really well. The SD content looks great, which was something I was a little worried about in moving from a 28" CRT to a 42" plasma. Can't recommend it too highly

Ciarán.

whowantstwoknow

big_moe wrote: »

for what you want i think the TH-42PV70 will do the job. the th-42PY70 is a great tv as wel, the main difference is the "full hd" resolution of the panel. to be honest, you need a very sharp eye to be able to see the difference at 42"... and if you're not using blu ray then you wont see the difference.

the pv70 has 2 HDMI (HD connections), 2 scart, component (some DVD players have this connection, better than scart) & pc input. and yes, you can get the 5 year warranty from retail outlets

moe

Got the above TV and put it up after xmas. Unfortunately, the center speaker above the TV fell off the wall and has scratched the reflective surface of the screen :mad:

Now it is livable, but its just bugging me with it being a nice new TV and all, so am thinking of getting it repaired. Should I contact panasonic directly to find out the potential cost to replace the front of the screen. I hope internally it isn't all one piece and in fact the front is just a separate glass screen so to speak. Anybody know how such plasma screens/TV are put together?

Looking to claim under the house insurance....

Thanks Mike

big_moe

the repair centre for panasonic plasmas is a crowd called plasma care on the nangor road, 01 4605357, ring them and see if they can give u a quote over the phone.

if there's no cracks on the screen then just the protective screen needs to be replaced, i wouldnt think that would cost too much

fergie boy

Contact the guys in GPTV. I have bought from them before. They provide a great service, and they sell Panasonic TV's and also do wall mounts and installations.
Here is their web address,
www.gptv.ie

Wolff

Had the same problem and got onto plasmacare - a replacement screen will set you back around 250 euros

had a small dent on my screen caused by thomas the tank engine !