Kings 300bb deep against 2 aggro opponants

cooker3

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $352.40
BB: $69.25
hero (UTG): $156.90
CO: $41.00
BTN: $123.80

Reads: Button is 42/16/1.4 over 200 hands. He is very very aggressive, can and has made moves and all round is very good player, possibly the best and trickiest player I have come accross.

Sb is 39/19/4 over 200 hands. He is also very aggressive. He can make moves and c/r cont bets but not quite as fancy as button, a tad more solid but compared to typical 50nl villain very aggressive.

I have been very aggressive as well and we have all been 3/4 betting light, and raising continuation bets on the flop

Preflop: hero is dealt K K (5 Players)
hero raises to $2.00, CO folds, BTN calls $2.00, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($6.50) 8 6 8 (3 Players)
SB checks, hero bets $5.00, BTN raises to $13.50, SB raises to $27.00

So whats your move and plan if you don't fold for the turn?

RoundTower

just fold, it's unlikely they are both messing so someone has an 8 or 66 or at least a big draw.

ianmc38

yeah simple fold

Killme00

Yep this is a fold

CaptainNemo

Nasty, I can't really decide what to do as it's so dependent on the two players and what they like to do in specific situations (some people NEVER raise the flop when they make trips, some people ALWAYS do, etc).

I guess in the absence of any other information the safe option is to fold, since if you're wrong you'll presumably be playing for your whole stack (I presume no one's going to suggest just calling the reraise).

What makes it tricky for me is your description of the players. A smart, tricky player knows that this is a great flop to make you lay down a big hand.

buck65

Why Not Call?

coillcam

Yep get outta dodge fairly lively boy.

As a matter of curiosity what exactly happened in the end?

cooker3

coillcam wrote:

Yep get outta dodge fairly lively boy.

As a matter of curiosity what exactly happened in the end?

This leads nicely on to my next question but I have a feeling I know what the answer is now
Flop: ($6.50) 8 6 8 (3 Players)
SB checks, hero bets $5.00, BTN raises to $13.50, SB raises to $27.00, hero calls $22.00, BTN folds

Turn: ($74) 8 6 8 3 (2 Players)
SB bets $134.00

So insta fold, yeah?

RoundTower

well now it depends on whether you have the K K or not.

ianmc38

yes sb obv has 66 thinking someone has an 8 and someone is retarded and wont fold AA/KK

ollyk1

cooker3 wrote:

Reads: Button is 42/16/1.4 over 200 hands. He is very very aggressive, can and has made moves and all round is very good player, possibly the best and trickiest player I have come accross.

Sb is 39/19/4 over 200 hands. He is also very aggressive. He can make moves and c/r cont bets but not quite as fancy as button, a tad more solid but compared to typical 50nl villain very aggressive.

Gotta love the table selection.

fuzzbox

RoundTower wrote:

well now it depends on whether you have the K K or not.

I fell off my chair

cooker3

ollyk1 wrote:

Gotta love the table selection.

Yeah I know. I think this is possibly my biggest leak, I do have terrible table selection skills but when I come up against decent players I enjoy it too much to just quit although that table was particulary crazy. It played much more like what 2-4 table would play like I imagine.

As for the hand I folded and he didn't show