Ufr 9 'aftermath fight results

Die Hard SBGNr

Hi,

How did all the fights go at ufr any future champs
from the south :eek:

cowzerp

my fight was where the judges couldnt decide who won and the ref decided. Fergus is a tough motherfecker and took some serious punches-15 mins of fighting and i dominated most apart from a couple of mins on the ground!!
Elbows are not a good idea for lads who have to go to work as both of us where mashed up after the fight-im bad and believe he was worse.

Fergus Wisdom won against Paul Cowzer-I dominated rd 1 +3 and barely lost rd 2 so dont know where this decision came from, same as most of the home town fans including his club members-ref seen it different.

Paddy Doherty won againt Kevin Kearney stoppage in first round (cut)
Jonny Shields won against Peter Davey

Darren Hughes won his fight against Martin Begley Rear Naked Choke (i think)

Gary morris won by guilotine 45 seconds v peter wilson

Mo Taylor won his fight with an armbar in first round

Paddy Doherty won against Fergus in final of tournament,

Rodney won against Mark ground and pound
All stolen off other site.

Tim_Murphy

Fergus Wisdom won against Paul Cowzer-I dominated rd 1 +3 and barely lost rd 2 so dont know where this decision came from, same as most of the home town fans including his club members-ref seen it different

I know the feeling dude, been there myself! :rolleyes:

What was the ref doing deciding the fight? How did the judges score it?

Die Hard SBGNr

hi,
The ref must have been a home boy

mark.leonard

The ref had no part in the decision, he has already been on Fighttalk.co.uk saying so. It was most a slip of the tongue by the the MC.

Nothingcompares

Hard luck Paul but from the sounds of it you got a chance to show case your skill set and demonstrate your fast hands, so that's great. I heard your fight was fight of the night and the decision was as close as they come.

Well done to Gary too!

weemate

Die Hard SBGNr wrote:

hi,
The ref must have been a home boy

the ref was by no means a fookin homeboy and as you were obviously not there I would seriously think about what you are saying.
I was the ref for the fight in question and in my opinion Paul won the third round hands down [ incidently I explained this to Paul on the day ] the first round was hard to call as both guys landed some very hard shots.I thought Fergus won the second and so I had to make a call on what I saw.
In truth I shouldnt have had to even get involved in any decisions but as there were only two judges in attendance I was callde in.
Ihave always been objective in any calls I make as a ref regardless of the fighters involved and have never favoured a club or fighter above anyother as anyone who knows me will testify.
I take great offence at what you imply as it insults my integrity as a ref,a job that I have done for a lot of years,and makes out that I am bias toward certain groups.
Peter Lavery.

Marty Mc

First off, i wasn't there so i didn't see the event...

Peter is a gr8 ref and calls fights as he see's them and is striaght down the line with his interpetation of any fight that he is in charge of. He is one of the few ref, if any, that will explain his actions in the ring to those that wish to know...whether that be online or face to face...

Having seen him referee on many occassions, i cant see what he would have to gain by either man winning.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Couldn't get up for this one as a serious bout of bronchitis (sp'ing) brought on my hay fever has me on the flat 'o-me back for days now

Paul hard luck, regardless of the loss your balls out guts has you a huge fan base here now.

Give my regards to Gary please.

The ref. like I said I wasn't there, but I've seen the wee lad ref before and couldn't find fault.

Any video or youtube clips coming up?.

oneill

It was a great fight between yourself and Fergus,mabe fight of the day had it not of been for the war between Keith and Tim.Id of gave you the victory but it was close.

Die Hard SBGNr

weemate wrote:

the ref was by no means a fookin homeboy and as you were obviously not there I would seriously think about what you are saying.
I was the ref for the fight in question and in my opinion Paul won the third round hands down [ incidently I explained this to Paul on the day ] the first round was hard to call as both guys landed some very hard shots.I thought Fergus won the second and so I had to make a call on what I saw.
In truth I shouldnt have had to even get involved in any decisions but as there were only two judges in attendance I was callde in.
Ihave always been objective in any calls I make as a ref regardless of the fighters involved and have never favoured a club or fighter above anyother as anyone who knows me will testify.
I take great offence at what you imply as it insults my integrity as a ref,a job that I have done for a lot of years,and makes out that I am bias toward certain groups.
Peter Lavery.

Sorry i did not know there was only 2 judges and far play you had to do ur job:cool:

cowzerp

Peter told me how he seen the fight and i told him how i seen it-i felt i well won the 1st and 3rd and would have given him the 2nd fair and square but only just-Fergus is a tough lad and took very hard shots that very few fighters could take, i was suprised he lasted, he will do well as he has loads of heart and has an overall good game, i,ve seen the fight again and stick by my original decision as does everybody who saw it-thats irrelevant anyway as the ecision is done, dave patterson has been good to me every time i've seen him as have all the local fighters so i've no personal attacks for anyone-Peter also had the guts to tell me face to face how he seen it so thats the end of that-decisions will not always be right but when you bust your heart out and feel hard done by it a hard pill to swallow, also i genuinely believe a fighter knows after a fight wheter he has won or lost and i was the one smiling after the fight. peace

Die Hard SBGNr

cowzerp wrote:

Peter told me how he seen the fight and i told him how i seen it-i felt i well won the 1st and 3rd and would have given him the 2nd fair and square but only just-Fergus is a tough lad and took very hard shots that very few fighters could take, i was suprised he lasted, he will do well as he has loads of heart and has an overall good game, i,ve seen the fight again and stick by my original decision as does everybody who saw it-thats irrelevant anyway as the ecision is done, dave patterson has been good to me every time i've seen him as have all the local fighters so i've no personal attacks for anyone-Peter also had the guts to tell me face to face how he seen it so thats the end of that-decisions will not always be right but when you bust your heart out and feel hard done by it a hard pill to swallow, also i genuinely believe a fighter knows after a fight wheter he has won or lost and i was the one smiling after the fight. peace

So whats next for u paul a rematch:cool:

cowzerp

i'm not sure whats next, i've nothing but respect for my opponent as he was a complete warrior and took some serious punches and leg kicks-i dont mean that in a smart way either, he was a true warrior and me and my team all agreed on that-i'm 0 and 3 now and on record look like a joke-2 short notice fights against top opposition and 1 that i was prepared for which i believe i won-i try to respect everyone and will wait and see what happens. either way my long term goal is to be a great coach and im learning lots from this..

arybvtcw0eolkf

Paul its easy to be a winner if you just pick the easy one's, and not a soul on this earth could ever say you've picked the easy one's.

For balls & guts alone your building a fan base.

cowzerp

Thanks martin-i like a tough fight and like to learn-this is not achieved by easy fights, mismatches are only a bad thing..

RealJohn

I was there on Sunday (very good show) and I have to say, while I don't think there was any bias on Peter's part, I can't see how he came to his decision (and everyone around me agreed).

For me, Paul clearly won the first and third rounds and the only round that was close was the second (though I probably would give it to Fergus if I had to choose). Sure Fergus never looked hurt by the bombs Paul was hitting him with but I don't think not being hurt is criteria enough to win a fight (and to be honest, all you had to do was look at Fergus' face after the fight and look at Paul's and it wasn't hard to spot who won).

For me though, both guys deserve all the credit in the world because it was the fight of the night in my opinion. I definitely want to see a rematch there.

weemate

my last words on this event are that I think the Paul/Ferus's match up was the fight of the day,even as good as my own fighter,Tim mc Crory's match up for the light heavyweight title.
I have always tried to make fair judgement on match ups and am always totally neutral in my job as ref or indeed judge,jobs that I have done since MMA started in this country as a lot of teh old timers can confirm.
Had I been told at teh start that there were only two judges in attendance and that I was to make a call on an outcome if it ended in a draw then I may have been better prepared for such an event happening and not have to go over three rounds of fighting in my head in the space of seconds to make a call.
I opologose to Paul if he thinks that I was bias toward him,I think he is a fine warrior and I would love to see him a and Fergus do it again...........this time as a spectator and not a ref.
Peter

cowzerp

Peter i would like to go on record that i dont blame bias at all and a decision had to be made-i felt it was wrong but as you said its hard to make a snap decision when ill prepared, either way, we all make mistakes in life and in my opinion this was 1 but i dont think there was any malice intended, i also appreciated the fact that you came up to me after-i told you my feelings then and now just have to move on, how did fergus get on in the final? he has some balls going again after the 1st one. Paul

weemate

From what I hear he lost in the first.......truthfully I would have been impressed had any of the two of you even appeared for another fight judging by the state you both were in!
I was having my own tantrum after the result of Tims fight so I missed the final.

RealJohn

Yeah, Fergus lost in the first. In fairness, Paddy had fought for two minutes with a break in the middle for the cut whereas Fergus had fought for fifteen hard minutes. If he didn't manage to beat Paddy early, it was never going to happen.

I meant to say by the way that while Peter is getting a lot of criticism for his decision in Paul's fight, he really shouldn't be because he shouldn't have had to make the decision at all. I can understand Peter making a mistake in his decision because he had other things to be looking out for besides scoring the fight. The judges have no excuse for not coming to a decision.