Interesting 0.5/1 hand with some other player input

digiman

Noble Poker Quispamsis 0.50/1, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | saw showdown

Button monstermango ($90.80)
SB TTR25091907 ($69.50)
BB LoLeXiToNlYaMeNt ($113.50)
UTG digiman ($88)
UTG+1 Danovits ($106.50)
CO rammos ($197.53)

Preflop: digiman is UTG with 8 8
digiman raises to 4, Danovits calls 4, 1 fold, monstermango calls 4, TTR25091907 calls 3.50, 1 fold.

Flop (17.00) 6 4 2
TTR25091907 checks, digiman bets 14, 1 fold, monstermango calls 14, TTR25091907 calls 14.

Turn (59.00) T
TTR25091907 checks, digiman checks, monstermango bets 40, 1 fold, digiman....


Firstly whats my move here, how have i played that hand so far?

Secondly, now take into account the speech play that Danovits says:
When the action comes around to me he types into the window something along the lines of, call, 90% of the time he is bluffing.
I know this is really bad and could be seen as collusion by some people and this would really annoy the hell out of me if I was the Villan in the hand.
I know this should not affect my decision of what to do next, but it did throw me off, I quickly went into PT and looked the villan up but I couldn't find anything of him and had not seen him do anything out of order when I was at the table. So what do we do here now and does the speech play affect our decision in any way?

digiman

Anyone got any thought on this?

El Stuntman

if you were to act on everything typed in chat windows, you would probably be the biggest cash game staker in the world

fold

Ace2007

i probably would have lead out on the turn and folded to a reraise.... as it is and from his "speech play" - ur either WB/WA imo

digiman

Ace2007 wrote:

i probably would have lead out on the turn and folded to a reraise....

I think this would be really really bad, If I lead the turn into a pot of $59 I am never ever folding to a reraise as my stack is just not deep enough. I think my check on the turn looks week here to the villan, but I would also check this turn here as well with any over pair as a set is just to likely given the action on the flop.
Also just to clarify the speech player had come from another player.

dvdfan

Ive stats on him 40/30/3.5 over 100 hands, he could be right but maybe he showed him a hand he bluffed him off and the guy was fuming, which i think is more likely because why would a sane poker player alert you to the fact that a fish is bluffing so you could take his money instead of him. Id take the comment with a pinch of salt and fold here, if hes bluffing pick a better spot later

Ace2007

digiman wrote:

I think this would be really really bad, If I lead the turn into a pot of $59 I am never ever folding to a reraise as my stack is just not deep enough. I think my check on the turn looks week here to the villan, but I would also check this turn here as well with any over pair as a set is just to likely given the action on the flop.
Also just to clarify the speech player had come from another player.

yea i really should look at stack sizes before i post....(still haven't looked at them but i assume ur right)

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

you have 18 invested with 70 left irregardless of the chat your more than likely not in good shape so its a fold.

digiman

I actually shoved in the end, and the villan took about 10 seconds (I then knew I was good!!) and called. He had 63 and didnt hit anymore so I took down a nice pot. What concerned me after the hand was that I was 80% folding until the other player said that I should call and that he bluffs so much. In heinsight I should probably never ever listen to what anyone else says at the table even though they turned out to be right this time.
I still think I should have went with my initial thoughts and folded but it turned out to be the right decision at this particular time.