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Quick Lightroom help

  • 25-08-2007 12:30pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭


    Hi Folks,
    I edit a photograph, I get two entries - the orignal photo and the edited one.
    If I delete the original photo, the edited copy is deleted too.
    How do I just delete the original and keep the edit?
    I've done it before, but something's amiss now.

    Cheers!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,185 ✭✭✭nilhg


    Oriel wrote:
    Hi Folks,
    I edit a photograph, I get two entries - the orignal photo and the edited one.

    Are you creating a virtual copy to edit? Thats the only reason I can think of that you would get an edited copy.


    Oriel wrote:
    If I delete the original photo, the edited copy is deleted too.
    How do I just delete the original and keep the edit?
    I've done it before, but something's amiss now.

    Cheers!

    Lightroom doesn't change the original file, it saves the edit details as metadata in a sidecar file or in its own database, depending on the way its setup. If you delete the file everything goes with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭CONMIKE12


    Don't create a virtual copy to edit, just right click on your original file and choose the external editor with which you are gonnna edit the file with.I use photoshop so it creates a PSD with Lightroom adjustments.when you are finished editing and you save the file, it saves it as a PSD within lightroom and you can then delete the original file.Althought why you would to delete the original is beyond me.Hope this helps,Conor.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    CONMIKE12 wrote:
    Don't create a virtual copy to edit, just right click on your original file and choose the external editor with which you are gonnna edit the file with.I use photoshop so it creates a PSD with Lightroom adjustments.when you are finished editing and you save the file, it saves it as a PSD within lightroom and you can then delete the original file.Althought why you would to delete the original is beyond me.Hope this helps,Conor.

    That's what I've been doing. When I say delete the original, I meant remove it from the gallery - when I go to generate a web gallery, I don't want both versions in it!

    Sorted now anyways,
    Cheers all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,763 ✭✭✭Fenster


    I've never been too cheery with virtual copies myself. Better to just make a whole new copy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭JMcL


    Oriel wrote:
    That's what I've been doing. When I say delete the original, I meant remove it from the gallery - when I go to generate a web gallery, I don't want both versions in it!

    What I'd suggest is that you assign a rating, or add a keyword, to anything you might want to include in a web gallery. Then when you go to create the gallery/slideshow, you can filter out anything that's not wanted easily. Don't ever delete your original though!
    Fenster wrote:
    I've never been too cheery with virtual copies myself. Better to just make a whole new copy.

    I find them very useful TBH. I use them if I'm doing multiple processes for a HDR merge, or if I want to do a mono version of an image. A second copy is only going to take up space on the disk unnecessarily.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    Urgh! This is happening again!
    When I edit a file in photoshop, and save, it creates a new file in Lightroom, beside the original.
    I want to create a web gallery. When I try to delete the original files (leaving only the final versions) it asks "Delete the selected master photo from disk, or just remove it from Lightroom?" If I select "Yes", then it deletes all copies of the photo.

    Any ideas?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    This is where LR gets really awkward.

    If I want to create a gallery, I just end up exporting what I want in it, reimporting them, and using that. Only way I could get it to do what I wanted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,424 ✭✭✭440Hz


    I never get that problem. I just import the whole folder to Lightroom (but more Aperture now), then flag the shots I want to work on, and drag the thumbnail from Lightroom onto the PS dock icon (cos I prefer to work on the RAW in PS) and away I go... so I save the PS version in a different location (and its not in the Lightroom library yet) and when Im done I import the folder I want to keep into Lightroom, make the gallery and remove the folder of originals from the Lightroom gallery but not the disk... much easier to be honest.

    None of that crap in Aperture though... just FYI Oriel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 leakd


    When you edit a file with Photoshop, Lightroom “stacks” the original and edited photos. So if you try to delete it, you delete the whole stack. To unstack the photos go into grid view and right-click on the stack and click on “Stacks -> Unstack”. Now you should be able to delete the original.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    leakd wrote: »
    When you edit a file with Photoshop, Lightroom “stacks” the original and edited photos. So if you try to delete it, you delete the whole stack. To unstack the photos go into grid view and right-click on the stack and click on “Stacks -> Unstack”. Now you should be able to delete the original.

    Yeah, I had done that, but it still deleted the whole stack. :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭mikeanywhere


    Oriel wrote: »
    Urgh! This is happening again!
    When I edit a file in photoshop, and save, it creates a new file in Lightroom, beside the original.
    I want to create a web gallery. When I try to delete the original files (leaving only the final versions) it asks "Delete the selected master photo from disk, or just remove it from Lightroom?" If I select "Yes", then it deletes all copies of the photo.

    Any ideas?


    Steve - in Lightroom, when you edit the image in PS, it asks do you want to stack the editted version with the original, uncheck the 'stack with original' so that when it comes back in Lightroom it isnt linked to the original. That way you can delete the original without worrying about the newer version.
    Oh and the same applies whether you create a virtual copy too.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    Ah right, I'll try that then so. :)
    Cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,424 ✭✭✭440Hz


    Steve - in Lightroom, when you edit the image in PS, it asks do you want to stack the editted version with the original

    Doesn't ask me that! Never has.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭mikeanywhere


    440Hz wrote: »
    Doesn't ask me that! Never has.

    Image in Lightroom....

    Cntrl+E (in windows) and the pop up thingy states what I said above.

    Clicking on triangle also gives you the options which you can change as to whether you want PSD, Tiff format within PS etc etc etc


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