friend ruins holiday

LegacyUser

hi. basically my friend was supposed to drive 3 of us to the airport yesterday morning (he was going as well). we rang him at 8am to make sure he was coming. he assured us he was about to leave.. i then rang him at 8.30 but there was no answer. i assumed that because he was driving he wouldnt answer his phone. it usually takes 40 mins to get to where we were in town. so at 9.10 we rang again to make sure we was on time. again no answer. then at 9.15, again. starting to get worried now and we discussed getting a taxi. we said we'd wait because he might be pissed off as it's a diversion for him to collect us on way to airport.

now at 9.30 he answer. he went back to sleep as soon as he answered the first time!!!! ****ing prick! anyway so we try getting a taxi and we couldn't for a while. 1 of my mates had his bags in sleepy guys car so he had to wait. we got to airport, but it was just two of us waiting. we got call at 10.30 saying they weren't going to make it. i was furious and we just were so pissed off we were pretty late as it was so we decided we couldn't go either. now the guy is saying he was just going to sleep for a second and went to sleep and it wasn't his fault. i'm nearly considerin asking for money back but the guy who went to airport with me is going mental at him and i agree with him. it costs us a bit for the tickets aswell. do you think i should ask for my cash. he doesn't even seem that sorry... i mean he had to be up at 8!! he's so ****ing lazy :!

Bottle_of_Smoke

What a tosser. Was a later flight completely out of the question?

LegacyUser

we thought about it but 2 of us just were so annoyed we didn't want to go it was only for 4 days anyway

Bottle_of_Smoke

It could happen to anyone but if it was me I'd have offered to pay for your replacement flights that day

How much it set you back?

daveirl

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GAAman

Have to agree with bottle there i woulda paid without havin to be asked

Smellyirishman

You could have gone without him, so I guess that doesn't really warrant him paying for your ticket. Now, if you tried to go and didn't make it in time, then you'd probably have a case for your money back but you didn't.

F*cking dickhead though; just don't rely on him for anything in future.

LegacyUser

'we could have gone but it would have been 2 of us but if we were delayed in airport we would have missed it (we got there about 30-40mins before flight). plus we had booked a place wich we prob would have had to pay full price'

Pigman II

By the sound of him he's the kind of guy who's gonna make getting your money back like pulling teeth. So what are you gonna do when he "forgets" the cash yet again?

Just forget about getting the money from him (you're never gonna see it) and learn from this that (1) you really can't depend on anyone when you get right down to it and (2) that the best revenge is living well. You and bloke #2 (presuming he had the essentials on his person?) should have gone to the airport straight away, hopped on the plane left the other two swinging their dicks in the breeze.

Oh yeah and in the meantime cut your ties with this guy. He's a lost cause. I've thrown friends to the lions (metaphorically) for less and never spoken to them again (literally). You should do likewise.

seamus

**** happens - it could really have happened to anyone, but at the very least I would have offered straight up to pay for later flights that day for the three of you.

As Pigman says, the chances of getting any money out of him are miniscule. He doesn't even think he's done anything wrong. Just drop him and move on.

Petey2006

I went on holiday with a bunch of 'friends' last year to New York. On the last night, one of the guys, who was considerably bigger than the rest of us (we're talking over 6'5 here) decided to get drunk and beat the **** out of two of us. I was left black and blue, but since I organized everything and paid on my credit card, I had to hang around until we checked out. The other guy who got a hiding left after it happened at 4am for the airport. Our flight home wasn't until 8pm the following evening.
While what happened to you was rotten, it's not the worst thing that could happen!

Needless to say, I don't talk to those people any longer!

Femelade

That happened a friend of mine. but he was the guy in the wrong.
Expensive holiday with him and a friend. The morning of the flight was when he decide to pack..throw a few things into a bag. But he couldnt find his passport anywhere. He found it that evening behind his bedside locker, i think he had paid for the flights and his friend was to pay him back..which he didnt. fair enough.

dodgyme

My advice is to take the hit on the cost of the holiday and start to break your friendship. People like this drag the rest of us down. Organise another hol in a few months with the other guys and enjoy yourselves.

Ishmael

pissed off! wrote:

now the guy is saying he was just going to sleep for a second and went to sleep and it wasn't his fault.

Thats very bad form. How can he say it is not his fault when it obviously was. At the very least i would expect an apology, and depending on the cost maybe some form of refund or a good will gesture.

If he's a good friend then leave him in the doghouse until he comes up with a satisfactory apology. If Not, then tell him to bugger off!

the_syco

Bad form, but tough sh|t.

Next time, get a taxi. Costly, but not as costly as missing a flight.


Also, were you paying him for the lift? No? Then what incentive had he to give you the lift?

Mullah

Incentive can only be measured in monetary terms? You can clearly measure the price of everything and know the value of nothing.

How about simply keeping his word? It would be incentive enough for me, and most people I know.

Ger the man

We all have holiday horror stories. I went on holidays with lads in the past and vowed never to do it again and am glad I didnt. They were completley selfish and I might as well have been invisible, I actually remember saying to myself 'I wish I was back in work'. They blew most of there money on call girls in the first week and sucked up to me for money and I promptly told them 'No'. The best holidays I ever had and still have are with my wife.

seamus

the_syco wrote:

Also, were you paying him for the lift? No? Then what incentive had he to give you the lift?

Being a good mate?
I've given plenty of lifts to friends at ungodly hours of the morning, I expect nothing in return.

carpainter

Something vaguely similiar happened to me years ago; 4 of us had booked a package holiday for 2 weeks, it was my first ever foreign holiday so it was a big deal. We were all really looking forward to it. We only paid a deposit initially , the usual deal and only months later when the balance was due did a problem arise. One of the guys backed out at the last minute; we had to cover his share or lose our deposit. As far as I remember we were able to work out something with the travel agent so we didn't have to cover the entire balance but three remaining travellers did get hit somewhat. We were all pretty sore about it at the time as the guy responsible didn't really have a good excuse to back out and he made no real apology (and certainly didn't offer to pay up!). The friendship suffered for a good time afterwards and it was often "joked" about later. Still more than 12 years later it's largely irrelevant as I never/ rarely see any of those guys now. It did teach me a lot about knowing when you can rely on someone or not. When travelling with other people you really need to have some consideration and courtesy for the other members of your party and if that's a problem for someone they should probably make their own arrangements!

carpainter

Ger the man wrote:

We all have holiday horror stories. I went on holidays with lads in the past and vowed never to do it again and am glad I didnt. .............The best holidays I ever had and still have are with my wife.

Agreed! Once the airport hell is out of the way my wife and I have always enjoyed our holidays together; when you travel with a partner you know what to expect and moods and petty differences of opinion don't get in the way of enjoyment of the holiday.

Kinetic^

the_syco wrote:

Also, were you paying him for the lift? No? Then what incentive had he to give you the lift?

How about being a good friend? What a knob!!!!!! :rolleyes:

Leeby

seamus wrote:

Being a good mate?
I've given plenty of lifts to friends at ungodly hours of the morning, I expect nothing in return.

Exactly, he was trying to be a good mate! Yeah he messed up, really badly, and ruined everyones holiday but I really think it's going a bit far to call him a complete d*ck and advising the OP to end their friendship! He tried to do something nice (as the OP said, they were out of his way) and it went horribly wrong. Bad luck all round, not worth ending a friendship over.

McGinty

Exactly, he was trying to be a good mate! Yeah he messed up, really badly, and ruined everyones holiday but I really think it's going a bit far to call him a complete d*ck and advising the OP to end their friendship! He tried to do something nice (as the OP said, they were out of his way) and it went horribly wrong. Bad luck all round, not worth ending a friendship over.

I would disagree if someone offers something and then fails to follow through in my opinion it is bigger kick in the nuts, there is no point in being 'nice' if the action doesn't follow through, I think 'walk the talk' comes into mind.

Op if I were you I'd be just as mad but like the others said a lesson learned. Holidaying with other people can be a bad, bad thing. I've had too many holiday horrors with others and now holiday alone or with my son, its much better. He sounds a feckless eegit and you can take a small nugget of comfort that he will continue to let people down until he exeperiences a painful land, or become a billy no mates.

Ger the man

The most welcome site for me on a lads holiday was my dad waiting in the arrivals hall for me. The 'friends' basically dumped all there luggage with me to bring home because they wanted to get pissed in one of the airport bars. I agreed and then walked off... tee hee! I later heard security picked the bags up and held them for 2 days (one lad had his case opened and they took all his porn off him - lol!) I never\rarely see them now and dont want to either. I told my wife about it years later and she said I was right to do it, they were never real friends.
On the same holiday I bought a lottery scratch card and won about the equivelant of 1000 euro, all of a sudden I was the best 'friend' ever. I wont repeat what i said to them cos I dont want to be banned.

Id advise the OP to forget that guy btw.

Fysh

Leeby wrote:

He tried to do something nice (as the OP said, they were out of his way) and it went horribly wrong.

I think the problem is he didn't really try at all. Something going horribly wrong would be his car breaking down/getting a flat tire at the same time as his mobile goes dead, stopping him from letting the group know.

Him making a promise to do something & then being a lazy b*llix and staying in bed instead, not to mention him refusing to accept that he'd done anything wrong later on, suggests that the mate is a gobsheen who won't take responsibility for anything he does or promises to do but fails to. Which means that a friendship with him is possible but should perhaps be re-evaluated.

If it was me I'd be inmensely pissed off and would probably cut off all contact for a while at least. Although I'd have also gotten a taxi and caught the flights if possible.

Chalk it up to experience I guess : wherever you've had to spend significant amounts of cash, have some sort of backup plan in case someone lets you down. In the case of travel, I'd generally check the minimum travel time it'll take to get to the airport/bus station/whatever, and add about 20-30 minutes. Means I can get there comfortably if all goes well and still have leeway in the event of everything going tits up.

Mighty_Mouse

personally I wouldnt trust a person to collect me and drive me to the airport.
Especially if that person wasnt withing kicking distance that morning ie sleeping in the same house.

It was a Human error though from a guy that was trying to do ye a favour in the first place.

Dont think its fair to ever go completely mental over human error.

LegacyUser

i replied but it must have got lost when boards went down. he was going on the holiday too, we would have got a taxi but he wanted to drive. we usually pay him for petrol when he drives us places. the holiday was 180 for flights and about 35 a night which we paid deposit for. he really didn't try at all. i mean who wakes up at their alarm knowing they have to go and falls asleep?

the_syco

seamus wrote:

Being a good mate?
I've given plenty of lifts to friends at ungodly hours of the morning, I expect nothing in return.

He doesn't sound like a good mate, tbh. Esp as he was going as well, he sounds like a complete smeg.