Repeating Externally???

Kid Nothing

does anyone know how much it costs to repeat externally? I hope I don't have to but a friend seems set on it!!! I heard €2,500. can anyone shed any light on it?

nothing

I repeated internally 2 years ago, it cost me 2,000 for 25 credits. But that amount depends on course, year and modules.

If you repeat externally, all you have to pay is the exam fees afaik. The people to ask are records, and fees and grants, both located in Humanity House (where you register).

LeixlipRed

Don't repeat externally should be the answer to any question related to this subject. Been a student/tutor in the Maths Dept for 5 years now and I don't ever remember coming across anyone who externally repeated and actually passed in the end. It sounds like a genius idea.Sure I'll work a few hours a week, maybe go to a few lectues, etc but what happens is that people work full time and leave the study till a week before the exams. Pointless exercise

lordgoat

I repeated externally and passed no problem. Sweeping generalisations are fun to make. I also know many people that have done the same. And some of them did math.

LeixlipRed

Obviously there are exceptions but those who go in with the attitude that external repeats are somehow easier than internal repeats are mad. And the majority of external repeat students in Maths fail. That's not a generalisation, that's a fact

banquo

I missed a repeat exam on wednesday, not have to repeat that module next year before going into 2nd year it seems.

Is there any way that I can JUST take the exam and not have to pay for the lectures? Is this what's known as repeating 'externally'? I know that most colleges do something similiar.

LeixlipRed

Yeh that's what repeating externally is. Though I think it's a flat fee regardless of how many modules (not 100% sure on that). Couple of hundred quid I think.

FunkyChicken

My friend did it last year and said it's the same price as doing repeats in August i.e. €50 per exam or a flat fee of €200, but he may have been stoned so I'm not 100%. That's what I'm doing this year! 11 exams woo \o/

edit: btw repeating externally is definitely the way to go. I mean you can go to the lectures anyway, just not labs or tutorials. I dont think I'd wanna be paying 3k when I could just as easily pay €200.

LeixlipRed

haha, but will you ever go to lectures? Tutorials help you understand the course material. They're invaluable. Especially if you failed 11 subjects :eek:

FunkyChicken

Well I went to most of my tutorials this year in maths and maths physics. Exp had none but I did most the labs. I just didn't do *any* study whatsoever and skipped a tonne of exams. I'll be working full time but I think I can pull it off with a bit of effort and actual work this year.

Horsefumbler

did it last year for 2 modules just had to pay the price of repeating them in autumn kind of thing. Went to most lectures. wouldn't recommend if you're repeating a lot of modules.

banquo

Do you have to pay the registration fee?

If not then obviously I can't use the library etc?

Biologic

I repeated 1 module externally and passed well. All in all it cost me 50 quid. No registration fee or any other extras. The 50 quid even gets you access to the library etc.

banquo

Biologic wrote:

I repeated 1 module externally and passed well. All in all it cost me 50 quid. No registration fee or any other extras. The 50 quid even gets you access to the library etc.

/Punches air; cheers enthusiastically, immediatly spends all his money.

Biologic

I suppose I should put some form of disclaimer on that.
-I passed my CA for the year (at least I told the guy that asked me I passed it), I was told you can't repeat if you failed CA for abvoius reasons.
-I was also told that some departments wouldn't let you repeat certain modules so you're better off ringing the department.

pisslips

Are you sure about the C/A thing?
I've a friend who's extremely screwed so.

Biologic

Yep I'm sure. I originally thought I failed CA but when he asked I just said I passed it, maybe they didn't check.

pisslips

It's seems strange that I failed c/a for four modules last year but made it up in the exams and passed.

Yet my friend did the same except he failed outright in the four.So he's decided that he wants to do it all over again and intends to turn over a new leaf and all the rest but what your saying is that he won't be allowed.

Which seems strange considering that he'll be paying them money.He still has to reach their required standard, so it doesn't harm their reputation.
I mean at the end of the day, they want money and a good reputation. Allowing someone to repeat externally 500 times with or without c/a doesn't harm either.

FunkyChicken

It's up to the department pisslips with regard to CA. I failed mine last year but am allowed to repeat externally this year, so long as I do my formal report. Maths department said it's cool as well so now I'm just waiting on Maths Physics (which I'm sure I got 0% in CA seen as I didnt do any of the problem sheets). Hope they take pity on me!

pisslips

You sound like me only worse.Do maths physics next year, there's no c/a.Hence the four I failed c/a in were maths, the only four modules I had with c/a....it wasn't even to your advantage.

c/a ruined my life......in general.

FunkyChicken

I did MP in 2nd year cos there was no labs but I regret it now. That subject is fu*king impossible! Guess I'll just have to learn the hell out of it this year and drop it like it hawwwwwwt. What year are you in btw?

pisslips

I'm the same year as you except I did double mp.So in first year I did all the mp100 and mp200 modules.
So next year, I'm doing all the mp400 modules.
I decided to drop Maths, as I'm either **** at it or else it's something that requires rigour and work and all the rest of that crap......or both.

I may come out with a degree that required no c/a or labs....*fingers crossed*

I'm crying on the inside though.

Rossin

Hi everyone, im in my final year and im seriously considering repeating. Right now Ive an average of 45 and ive done equally terrible this year. I know i wont really get anywhere with an average this crap so im thinkin of giving it another shot.

Problem is, i've very little money. If i repeat externally, can i be awarded an honours degree and get whatever grade i come out with in the repeat year instead of just a pass. That would be sweet. I kinda want another year in college anyway so this would be mega sweet.

LeixlipRed

Do you know what repeating externally means though? You can't submit any CA! Here are your options:

Reject your degree assuming you pass and repeat 15 credits in August while maintaining the right to honours.

Repeat one whole subject internally, mark in other subject fixed but can still get honours.

Repeat everything internally, just like going again, fresh start.

Repeat externally and CA marks are fixed, only exams will change.

I'd recommend the first option to be honest!

wonton

LeixlipRed wrote: »

Do you know what repeating externally means though? You can't submit any CA! Here are your options:

Reject your degree assuming you pass and repeat 15 credits in August while maintaining the right to honours.

Repeat one whole subject internally, mark in other subject fixed but can still get honours.

Repeat everything internally, just like going again, fresh start.

Repeat externally and CA marks are fixed, only exams will change.

I'd recommend the first option to be honest!

Is that CA thing justfor final year? cos I repeated english in first year externally and was able to hand in essays.

Also before even thinking about repeating externally it is not always an option, for example that the music departmant does not allow students to repeat externally.

LeixlipRed

Sorry, I should have mentioned the CA thing is department by department, I'd forgotten about that. Maths for example doesn't allow you to submit assignments or do mid-terms. Anyway, would anyone advise someone to repeat anything final year externally? I wouldn't anyway, I think it'd be a bonkers decision. To think that dedicating a year in college to it got you a poor grade, how will you fair when you're working full time or something and trying to do the same?

LeixlipRed

I went and checked Marks and Standards and it says nothing about repeating externally for honours. I assume you can just like in any year with the specifics decided by the department.

Also you can repeat just the 15 credits internally the next year as well, not just in August. Sounds like your best bet for me. Pick the 2/3 poorest modules and just repeat those. Fees wouldn't be full in that case, though you'd have to talk to Fees & Grants for specifics.

Seren_

Hey Rossin I have some experience in the matter of repeating, so thought I'd give you a few tips :pac: First of all, you should go and have a chat about your options with the people in Academic Advisory - they're unbelievably helpful. Second, you need to decide which way of repeating is better for you, and also that it suits your department as well. Maybe have a chat with the head of the department to see what way you can go about it.

Repeat everything internally, just like going again, fresh start.

This is what I did. It's very expensice (I don't know the actual price because I got free fees for the year, but I think it's ~€6000). So unless there's a reason why you would get free fees, I imagine this option is probably out.

Repeat one whole subject internally, mark in other subject fixed but can still get honours.

My friend is doing this this year. It cost her around €1200 iirc. This option kind of only makes sense if your bad marks are just in one subject though.

I think the most important thing you can do is go to the Academic Advisory office. And the Access/Disability office too if you're registered with either of them.