South Africa's 2003 RWC Preparations

SpAcEd OuT

Anyone know where I could find articles on the 2003 South Africa World Cup preparations, I've heard quite a few stories of the team being made crawl through trenches while shotguns were fired above obviously don't know whether to believe such stories...

ALH-06

You're thinking of the 'Kamp Staaldraad' controversy. Basically the squad was taken to a military-style boot camp during their RWC preparations as part of a team building exercise. After SA performed poorly and exited at the QFs, details began to emerge of some pretty shocking incidents that took place at Staaldraad, such as guns being pointed at players and forced nudity etc.

Theres plenty of info on it. Start at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamp_Staaldraad

JæKæ

interesting-I see the whistle blower committed suicide a few years later

Linford

SpAcEd OuT wrote:

Anyone know where I could find articles on the 2003 South Africa World Cup preparations, I've heard quite a few stories of the team being made crawl through trenches while shotguns were fired above obviously don't know whether to believe such stories...

Don't think they are being put through the same this year... I was in Galway at the weekend and met Schalt Burger, Percy Montgomerie, Oz de Rand and Victor Matfield (apologies for the probable misspelling of names) on the p!ss. Nice guys, just concerned about my bet on SA to win the world cup after seeing how much they drank

remus808

Linford wrote:

just concerned about my bet on SA to win the world cup after seeing how much they drank

uhoh.. i'v got a bet on them too! That's class that you met them.. but surely they should be expected to remain tee-total till after the WC at this stage?

Sir

ALH-06 wrote:

You're thinking of the 'Kamp Staaldraad' controversy. Basically the squad was taken to a military-style boot camp during their RWC preparations as part of a team building exercise. After SA performed poorly and exited at the QFs, details began to emerge of some pretty shocking incidents that took place at Staaldraad, such as guns being pointed at players and forced nudity etc.

Theres plenty of info on it. Start at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamp_Staaldraad

Dude, Wikipedia is hardly a reliable source on such things. The article itself in says it needs more sources/verification. I'd be quite reluctant to believe much of what the article says.

remus808

LOL found this in a news article on it..

During the exercise, players were forced to cook a chicken and boil an egg

Ready, Steady, Rugby?

daveirl

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tHE vAGGABOND

Yea its all common knowledge tbh

On Wikipedia, there are a couple of university studys [not arsed searching for them now tbh - but read one a couple months ago] which compared the content of wikipedia with encypledia britinica [or similar] and over a wide range of subjects. On the ones I saw Wikipedia always wins, its more accurate due to the fact that you can update it all the time, where a book goes to press last year and is therefore out of date almost immediately on some subjects [or indeed can be biased if the bloke writing it favours some things and not others!].

Yes some people and political organisations mess with their profiles, but on matters of history and science it is as good as your going to get tbh

Sir

I've read that myself, but on controversial subjects, such as this, I'm inclined to try and find other sources before relying on it.

daveirl

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