Job and dole question

gary the great

When I finished college last year I took and job in Ireland and worked for about 8months in it. I hated it so when the offer of a 6month contract for a project in the UK came up I took it, as it would really benefit my career and I’ve learned invaluable experience in it. The contract finishes in 3 weeks and I’ve applying like a mad thing for a job in Ireland and have an interview lined up to. However, when I move back home, can I claim the dole to tie me over unitl I find a new job? I know its not that much (how much is it?) but it will certainly help me out and I don’t know how long it will be until I find a new job?

the_syco

Its between €0 and €200 depending on a few things... such as age, your parents, income, etc...

Oh, and don't expect it to come straight away. Prepare to wait a few weeks/months before you start getting cash. Sure, it'll be backdated, but for me: it was backdated 10 weeks...:eek:

penexpers

If you leave a job voluntarily, there's a period that you need to wait before you can start claiming jobseeker's allowance.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/social-welfare/social-welfare-payments/unemployed-people/jobseekers-allowance

I don't think you have enough PRSI contributions to claim jobseeker's benefit

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/social-welfare/social-welfare-payments/unemployed-people/unemployment_benefit

gary the great

I paid PRSI from August 2006 to April 2007 in ireland. Surley that would be enough for some allowence?

Would be cool if they took notice of my UK contributons.

BuffyBot

They will take into account your NI payments from the UK

penexpers

gary the great wrote:

I paid PRSI from August 2006 to April 2007 in ireland. Surley that would be enough for some allowence?

Would be cool if they took notice of my UK contributons.

.

In order to qualify for Jobseeker's Benefit, you must pay Class A, H or P PRSI contributions. Class A is the one paid by most private sector employees. Class H is paid by soldiers, reservists and temporary army nurses, who do not qualify for Jobseeker's Benefit until they have left the army.
you must have 52 weeks PRSI paid since starting work and
you must have 39 weeks PRSI paid or credited in the Relevant Tax Year or
you must have 26 weeks PRSI paid in the Relevant Tax Year and
you must have 26 weeks PRSI paid in the Tax Year prior to the Relevant Tax Year

The Relevant Tax Year for a claim is the second last complete tax year before the start of the Benefit Year, for example, if you are making a claim in 2007, the Relevant Tax Year is 2005.

gary the great

Dam. In 2005 I was still in college and only working aprt time for a few months here and there, although I did pay PRSI, I think it was only for 8 of the 12 months of the year.

Don't really agree with the system i'm going to e working the rest of my life in ireland paying PRSI, have worked all th e way from 3rd year in scholl and all the way through college, thought i'd be entitled to a few quid for a couple of months while i try get a job sorted.

All the scangers on the dole, I doubt they've worked a year before they get the dole? Crap situation.

very miffed dub

gary the great wrote:

Dam. In 2005 I was still in college and only working aprt time for a few months here and there, although I did pay PRSI, I think it was only for 8 of the 12 months of the year.

Don't really agree with the system i'm going to e working the rest of my life in ireland paying PRSI, have worked all th e way from 3rd year in scholl and all the way through college, thought i'd be entitled to a few quid for a couple of months while i try get a job sorted.

All the scangers on the dole, I doubt they've worked a year before they get the dole? Crap situation.

Don't give up yet. You might qualify as you say you were working for a few years during school and college. The PRSI contributions have to be paid or credited ones.

You don't have to pay PRSI to get a PRSI contribution. If you weren't actually paying PRSI (because your income was below a certain figure) you would have still been getting a PRSI contribution as your employer would have been paying PRSI for you. Here's a link for the 2005 exemption limits http://www.welfare.ie/publications/sw19/sw19_sect1_05.html#1.2

Here's a link about student credits http://www.welfare.ie/publications/sw12.html#11.

BuffyBot wrote:

They will take into account your NI payments from the UK.

In theory this is correct but they can only be taken into account if you work and get a PRSI contribution after you return. No direct link available. This is taken from http://www.welfare.ie/foi/jb_jobseekben.html

'(h) Contributions paid while working in another EU/EEA State

Aggregation of Social Insurance Records

Article 67 of EU/EEA Regulation 1408/71 provides for periods of social insurance (PRSI) in one Member State to be credited to a worker's social insurance record in another Member State to facilitate qualification for JB.

The person must have been covered by a period of social insurance in the other country.
The person must have paid at least 1 reckonable contribution since the date when s/he arrived or last arrived in Ireland.
Social insurance credited to a person under this Article may be used to satisfy all of the contribution conditions for entitlement to JB.

The form E301 should be forwarded to the relevant social security authority in the other Member State to request details of the person's social insurance record in that country.

EU Records Section, Oisin House, are responsible for all Article 67 cases and should be contacted regarding the procedures to be followed in sending the E301.'

I hope this helps and doesn't confuse!!

Good luck.

gary the great

Does anyone know if I ring them up will they be able to tell me? I sure they have access to all my PRSI contributions etc, tbh I don’t know what I was doing in 2005, I think I was working my college placement in the HSE for 7months in 2005, and in Dunnes Stores for 3 of the other months of the year

Mrs. MacGyver

BuffyBot wrote:

They will take into account your NI payments from the UK

They will but you need to have paid prsi here when you come back also so he wont qualify for Jobseeker's Benefit. Contact your Social Welfare Local Office for further information as they will advise you on the best course of action based on your records/situation.

very miffed dub

You can also contact the Department by e-mail if you are in the UK http://www.welfare.ie/contact/index.html. They should be able to let you know what your contribution record is but make sure you provide as much information as possible, such as your name, PPS No., previous address, your mother's maiden name and a contact telephone number.

Mrs. MacGyver wrote:

They will but you need to have paid prsi here when you come back also so he wont qualify for Jobseeker's Benefit. Contact your Social Welfare Local Office for further information as they will advise you on the best course of action based on your records/situation.

If you don't have enough Irish PRSI contributions to qualify for Jobseekers Benefit the you will have to get at least 1 PRSI contribution when you return for your UK National Insurance contributions to be taken into account. For example you could get a day's work (which must be over €38) and get this elusive I paid PRSI contribution. http://www.welfare.ie/publications/sw19/sw19_sect1.html#classa

As you can see from this you do not have to pay PRSI to get a PRSI contribution as long as you earn more than €38 but not less than €339 in any given week or part of a week.

Hope this helps.

dudara

Just head into them and explain your situation. They're often quite good about explaining what you're entitled to.