Arthur Abraham's K.O

Bernard Hopkins

Thought his head came off his shoulders,.... I actually worried about his health, but Ghorean got up after a minute, thanks be to God.

Arthur looked a little out of steam for ages in this fight,... great k.o, but like to see him up against top competition !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qMOWP117Ro

henbane

That's one serious KO

Big Ears

Saw that earlier today , and I was expecting something brutal as I had been reading about the fight but that is up there with Wilson v Nwodo as the most devastating ko this year .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbs9ediXRIo&mode=related&search=

Apparently the fight was very close and it could have gone either way at the time of the stoppage(I'm going to guess Arthur was up simply because he was the 'house' fighter and it was in Germany) . Gevor was meant to have been a lot busier and would greatly outland Abraham for the first 2 mins of most rounds with quite light punching and then Abraham would come back in the last minute with his usual heavy artillery .

Abraham looked unusually inactive in the fight and oddly looked a lot bigger than normal . He may have had a bad training camp , or else he's starting to have problems with the weight .

Expect an easy defence next...............possibly in America:eek:

Bernard Hopkins

yes,....... he was much bigger, but looked in shape,.... he was slow, and just threw the big shots all night.

on the other hand, his opponent boxed like joe calzaghe....paffing flurry's of meaningless punches.

was close all the way,....... but arthur was 1/16 before the fight,....... gevor was totally discounted.

theone

Bernard Hopkins wrote:

on the other hand, his opponent boxed like joe calzaghe....paffing flurry's of meaningless punches.

calzaghe mighn't be a knock out puncher but tell lacy his punches are meaningless

Bernard Hopkins

yeah , true , His fight against Lacy was the highlight of Joe's carreer !!!

but then if you ask Saiko Bika or peter manfredo , then they'lll tell you otherwise.
Lacy was more of a body-builder than a boxer... I think that Kessler is way stronger hitting than joe.
The only fear about Kessler is that he isnt a busy fighter.

judges can be swayed easily by the cheers from the Calzaghe fans as he paffs a flurry,.... I think its kessler by K.O or nothing at all.

theone

calazghe is underestimated i think he'll beat kessler and i'd love to see him against hopkins if he gets rid of frank warren and fights in america that might happen,thats the only thing that counts against him he dosen't travel very well he prefers to stay in the comfort zone.

megadodge

like joe calzaghe....paffing flurry's of meaningless punches

While his punching technique is poor, Calzaghe hits hard !! There are plenty of other fights to validate that point.

Lacy was more of a body-builder than a boxer

This revisionist bullsh!t just keeps getting worse !!
The bookies favourite got hammered and suddenly he's just a "body-builder".
How come nobody was saying this before the fight ???

he dosen't travel very well he prefers to stay in the comfort zone.

The same could be said of any top American boxer.
When was the last time one of them actually fought outside their home country ?
Typical American double standards.

theone

theone wrote:

he dosen't travel very well he prefers to stay in the comfort zone.

megadodge wrote:

The same could be said of any top American boxer.
When was the last time one of them actually fought outside their home country ?
Typical American double standards.

I totally agree with you not a big fan of american boxing "experts" not only did they write off joe but you'd think ricky hatton never boxed before the way they are talking about him.

Mayweather is even talking about his next fight the winner of cotto/mosley(I think mosley will win this one ,good fight aswell) I hope he underestimates hatton.

The only reason I want to see joe travel is so he can prove the americans wrong their arrogance gets to me.

Bernard Hopkins

lol,.......dont get too upset !!! i always said that about lacy .
dont mind the bookies,...... he was favourite because of the world's exposure to one fighter over another.
i.e ,... joe calzaghe is no where near a recognized name world-wide.
when one bookie sets the odds , he must be in-line to match up with every other bookmaker, for obvious reasons.

I never rated lacy like the media. I cleaned up on Joe that night, it was his best performance .

But im afraid people here are too exposed to the British media hype, on a world stage , the brittish fare out very poorly.
They are nowhere near the standard of the Usa, im afraid.

Im not pro-american btw,..... Im probably the most anti-usa person on the board. But i have to give them credit for their boxing standards.

If you keep listening to brittish media hype, you will eventually be convinced that Joe is a hard hitter. Its not the case.

Joe has been over-protected all his carreer,.. by the time he gets to fight the highest level competition his body will be too old and past its peak.
that's the interest of the promoter,...... he only wants to hang on to Joe for the most profitable lenght of time.
if warren thought he could make it big in the states where the money is,... then he would have been tested there a long time ago.

anybody who cares to look at joe's opposition during the peak of his carrer can find it here: http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=005364&cat=boxer

what a waste of good talent.

Bernard Hopkins

megadodge wrote:

The same could be said of any top American boxer.
When was the last time one of them actually fought outside their home country ?
Typical American double standards.

oh come on , man ..... the one and only reason the big fights are in america are beacuse of the money involved. if you think for one second, that anywhere in the world tops las vegas , then you're a fool.
the money generated and splashed around in abundence is amazing. the profits and show put on is unmatched on a world level.

anybody see lacy against tyspko ?....... lacy didnt look all that did he ? in fact he was gifted a never to be victory.

Big Ears

Calzaghe used to hit very hard but does not anymore due to his hand injuries , either he's not capable or simply just doesn't(to protect his hands) throw the same hurtful punches he used to .

I saw Lacy against Tsypko , Lacy looked fantastic , was rocking Tsyko with jabs and was on his way to stopping him until he tore his rotator cuff(the same injury Vitali Klitschko had when he quite against Byrd even though he was well up on the cards and there was only 3 rounds to go) I've never seen a fighter put up such a good fight after tearing a rotator cuff either and while most people think Tsypko won I gave it to Lacy by 1 point .

The sad thing is a lot of people didn't know Lacy got injured in that fight(that's why he's been out so long and won't be back till next year) and think Calzaghe either ruined him or he was **** in the first place . Lacy is a good fighter and will win a title at Super-Middleweight again .

megadodge

oh come on , man ..... the one and only reason the big fights are in america are beacuse of the money involved. if you think for one second, that anywhere in the world tops las vegas , then you're a fool.

When was the last time a fight in Las Vegas, or for that matter anywhere in the US drew 35,000 spectators ?

Because that's what Calzaghe drew to the Millenium Stadium for his last fight.
And that was only Peter Manfredo. Imagine what it'll be like for Kessler.
And yes, they all paid good money to get in !!

Calzaghe and Hatton have made a hell of a lot of money from their careers (Hatton was a millionaire BEFORE he fought Tsyzu, regularly selling out a 23,000 capacity INDOOR arena), so enough of this rubbish about the big money being exclusively in the US. Virtually all the top US boxers have at various times over the last 15 years or so been offered serious money to fight in Europe and the vast majority of them have refused.

The only reason Hatton has fought in the US is because he knows the fighters he really wants to fight (ie. Mayweather) would flat out NEVER fight outside their own home country, so he has to go fight them in their own patch.

While the US has always been the top dog in world boxing the balance of power is really shifting, especially with the former Eastern Bloc countries now embracing pro boxing and I've just had enough of the double standard crap from Americans talking about foreign boxers being afraid to fight in the US when there are countless foreign boxers who either fight regularly in the US or base their entire careers there while their own home grown talent refuses to budge !

Bernard Hopkins

Big Ears wrote:

I saw Lacy against Tsypko , Lacy looked fantastic ..........
.and while most people think Tsypko won I gave it to Lacy by 1 point .

never,.... Tsypko looked a mismatch for lacy,.... he looked like a stiff breeze would blow him over. but he outboxed him , hit him cleanly and crisply and i think even lacy was surprised at the result. if the injury story is true , then you just got to fight thru your injury. injury is blamed on losses all the time, sometimes true sometimes false and sometimes exagerated.

like shannon briggs recently claimed he lost cause he was ill,...then his doctor came out and said shannon was talking reubbish, that there was never anything wrong with him.

Big Ears

Bernard Hopkins wrote:

never,.... Tsypko looked a mismatch for lacy,.... he looked like a stiff breeze would blow him over. but he outboxed him , hit him cleanly and crisply and i think even lacy was surprised at the result. if the injury story is true , then you just got to fight thru your injury. injury is blamed on losses all the time, sometimes true sometimes false and sometimes exagerated.

like shannon briggs recently claimed he lost cause he was ill,...then his doctor came out and said shannon was talking reubbish, that there was never anything wrong with him.

Lacy genuinely is currently recovering from a torn rotator cuff , it's well known and it's no coincidence Lacy hasn't fought at all this year and probably won't be fighting till early 2008 at the earliest .

Briggs always talks rubbish , I wish he'd just go away he's not helping the heavyweight division one ounce .

Lacy was handling Tsypko easily too the first time they fought and if they fought again I believe a fit Lacy would stop him(like he would of in the first bout and the second till he got injured) . This is Vitali Tsypko we're talking about , a man who was very lucky to win a close decision over Brian Magee not too long ago .