Rare De Lorean!

Volvoboy

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DeLorean-Rare-Red-1981-Delorean-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ110161017104QQihZ001QQcategoryZ31830QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


dunno how i ended up looking at these but came across this, looked abit special!




-VB-

WellyJ

Volvoboy wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DeLorean-Rare-Red-1981-Delorean-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ110161017104QQihZ001QQcategoryZ31830QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


dunno how i ended up looking at these but came across this, looked abit special!




-VB-

Can it be used as a time machine?

Volvoboy

Dosent have the Fulx-Capacitor!





-VB-

colm_mcm

......or a rear wheel

Volvoboy

I was more on about the colour than anything else, not many in red!



-VB-

peasant

Why would anyone paint it?

The stainless steel body was the only thing special about it ...that and the doors.

Volvoboy

The paint was electro - plated on, the original couldnt be painted, either by waterbase or solvent paint.



-VB-

peasant

yeah, yeah, yeah ...so it was expensive and "special" to paint ...the question still is WHY?

Volvoboy

How many do you see red?



-VB-

Guy:Incognito

3500 miles my ass. 103500 more like. The interior is showing major wear.

peasant

Volvoboy wrote:

How many do you see red?



-VB-

As a sportscar the DeLorean is useless.

What makes it stand out from the crowd is the stainless steel body (and the whole back to the future thing)

In red it's not a DeLorean ...it's just a useless old pseudo sportscar.


In my opinion, anyway

Owen

Blasphemy. The only colour a DeLorean should be is stainless steel. Let's see you clean the red car with a brillo pad!

TychoCaine

Christ Volvoboy, between Carina rustbuckets and now this ****box, you're giving Volvo owners/fans a bad reputation for taste in cars! To be serious for a second, that heap will take a lot of work to get working again. There's no way you'll get it back on the road economically when all the spare parts you need are a continent away.

Most of the painted Deloreans were done because it's a lot cheaper to fill & paint major body damage than panel beat it. I don't buy the "the owner wanted it painted red because he liked the colour" -type story for a second. Run a mile unless you can get an AA/Dekra type inspection before bidding.

Do yourself a favour and spend $20k on a clean car, and probably another €10k between shipping, VRT and the bits and bobs that are a requirement over here that it doesn't have (like a rear fog light), remove the power sapping 80's vintage catalytic converter and you'll have a nice car.

Volvoboy

TychoCaine wrote:

Christ Volvoboy, between Carina rustbuckets and now this ****box, you're giving Volvo owners/fans a bad reputation for taste in cars! To be serious for a second, that heap will take a lot of work to get working again. There's no way you'll get it back on the road economically when all the spare parts you need are a continent away.

Most of the painted Deloreans were done because it's a lot cheaper to fill & paint major body damage than panel beat it. I don't buy the "the owner wanted it painted red because he liked the colour" -type story for a second. Run a mile unless you can get an AA/Dekra type inspection before bidding.

Do yourself a favour and spend $20k on a clean car, and probably another €10k between shipping, VRT and the bits and bobs that are a requirement over here that it doesn't have (like a rear fog light), remove the power sapping 80's vintage catalytic converter and you'll have a nice car.

:eek: Calm down there ted i have no intentions on buying this car or anyother ones from the failed N.Irish Marque, just came across and never seen one painted before.

Go get a Cotex;)


-VB-

TychoCaine

If you're seriously looking for a good 2nd hand car, then buy mine A tidy Volvo S80 (a big boy's car) motorway cruiser for €14k.

I'll use the money to bring over a decent Delorean that I'll let you look at from time to time (as long as you don't touch it).

Volvoboy

TychoCaine wrote:

If you're seriously looking for a good 2nd hand car, then buy mine A tidy Volvo S80 (a big boy's car) motorway cruiser for €14k.

I'll use the money to bring over a decent Delorean that I'll let you look at from time to time (as long as you don't touch it).

Sorry i dont want to buy a ford i want a VOLVO that is if i was in the market for one no volvo intrests me post '93, anyway i'm in my Bangernomics period until i get my E Class



-VB-

bazz26

On a side note they made I think around five DeLorean DC-12s with gold plated body work. I think a bank has at least one and the others are in museums.

Regarding the car itself, yes it was poorly built, with brutal brakes, terrible handling and not so great performance but it had a cult following, mostly after the Back to the Future movie though.

It used a Renault V6 engine too afaik.

Blazer

plus the car couldn't get past 88mph.
Top speed was 87.
0-60 in 14.1 secs.
The DeLorean is a prime example of what marketing can do for a crap product.
Whoever the genius that came up with getting this car into the Back to the Future movies deserved a massive payrise

Henry Ford III

Engine was a 2.8 V6 from a Volvo bazz.

galwaytt

Henry Ford III wrote:

Engine was a 2.8 V6 from a Volvo bazz.

...which still makes it a Renault. Volvo never built a V6 engine...........they bought them from Renault..........and some 5 cyl diesels from Audi iirc......

el tel

There is another red DeLorean and it's in Ireland and its owner is a dwarf (really!)

smash

that's in bits... only 3577 miles and the state of it! interior is knackered and engine parts are covered in rust. Not to mention it's been sitting on blocks since 1992 so the bricks are probably part of the car now...

JoeA3

3500 miles?! He's having a laugh!! The interior looks like it has seen a million intergalactic miles and many fat arses.

Max_Damage

Try find a RHD DeLorean, only 13 were built as far as I know.

plus the car couldn't get past 88mph.
Top speed was 87.
0-60 in 14.1 secs.

They would have been faster if the American emissions rules weren't so strict.

Stephen

The American regulations at the time prohibited speedometers reading over 85mph too. This and loads more useless information available at the DeLorean Wikipedia article

Guy:Incognito

galwaytt wrote:

...which still makes it a Renault. Volvo never built a V6 engine...........they bought them from Renault..........and some 5 cyl diesels from Audi iirc......

I take its the same one from the Renault Alpine so?

TychoCaine

Volvoboy wrote:

Sorry i dont want to buy a ford i want a VOLVO that is if i was in the market for one no volvo intrests me post '93, anyway i'm in my Bangernomics period until i get my E Class

The S80 was launched in 1998, and Ford didn't buy Volvo until the following year, so the S80 was the last car designed before Ford took over. Unlike other models which have been assembled in Ford plants, the S80 is built in the Volvo plant in Gothenburg. What has happened is that Ford have taken the S80 platform, replaced the expensive aluminium parts with cheaper steel ones and started using it for their American "full size" cars such as the new Taurus they launched this year.

I never saw the point in bangernomics. I just want a comfortable reliable car that will eat motorway miles. The S80 is the same size as an E class, just as powerful; just as comfortable; and costs €6k less to buy (2002 65k miles S80 2.0t SE = €15k, 2002 E220 Elegance W210 = €21k). I wouldn't turn down a W211 though. They're a very nice motor, espeically with a big diesel under the bonnet. A guy I know in Spain has an E420 cdi that is scary fast.

Volvoboy

How much did you buy the Volvo for and how much are you selling it for?




-VB-

TychoCaine

bazz26 wrote:

On a side note they made I think around five DeLorean DC-12s with gold plated body work. I think a bank has at least one and the others are in museums.

It was a special promo for American Express. Only Amex Gold Card holders (geddit?) could buy one. Only two card holders bought them at the time, and a third was built from spares after DMC went bust.

bazz26 wrote:

Regarding the car itself, yes it was poorly built, with brutal brakes, terrible handling and not so great performance but it had a cult following, mostly after the Back to the Future movie though.

It used a Renault V6 engine too afaik.

It was a total Frankenstein... A Volvo/Renault engine, brakes off the Jaguar XJS (which explains a lot), and almost everything else mechanical was off the shelf. That's what happens when you have no money to develop the car, and want to sell it for $25k. It was poorly built because nobody on the production line had ever built a car before!

TychoCaine

Volvoboy wrote:

How much did you buy the Volvo for and how much are you selling it for?

The car is listed on adverts.ie @ http://adverts.ie/30302 , so lets take the conversation over there.... :cool:

Max_Damage

TychoCaine wrote:

brakes off the Jaguar XJS (which explains a lot), and almost everything

I heard the brakes (or maybe it was the suspension) was from a Ford Cortina!

TychoCaine

100% sure that the brake calipers are modified Jag units. The suspension could be from a Cortina though. I heard the steering was from an old Austin Princess design. The cool thing is that if the Delorean was made from bespoke parts most of them would be in the scrap yard by now. But Jag, Ford and BL parts will be available for years yet because of the larger market for them.

gonker

Ok I am female so dont shoot me down but I think I saw a Delorean on Saturday in Bettystown. I was driving up the road and it was in front of me. It looked silver it went around a roundabout and went back the way it came. It looked huge and do you think I could get my camera on my phone to work NO

cantdecide

el tel wrote:

There is another red DeLorean and it's in Ireland and its owner is a dwarf (really!)

Is that the one that's lent to the Transport Museum in Killarney?


The one in the original post is a real turd, isn't it....


Can't see why not, Gonker. They're not so rare that you might never see one. There is at least one club in the North.

ta2kev

You could just buy a new one ....................
http://www.delorean.com/newbuild.asp

irishpartyboy

WellyJ wrote:

Can it be used as a time machine?

According to the speedo, can't reach the required 88 mph

gonker

Oh thats grand because everyone I said it too said I was dreaming it was a northern reg car actually. Thanks

R.O.R

gonker wrote:

Ok I am female so dont shoot me down but I think I saw a Delorean on Saturday in Bettystown. I was driving up the road and it was in front of me. It looked silver it went around a roundabout and went back the way it came. It looked huge and do you think I could get my camera on my phone to work NO

There is definately one around there as it made the front page of the local rag not long ago (nothing really happens in the East Meath area I'm guessing).

Ceb

imagine seeing one of these beasts! according to somewhere or other delorean has confirmed these rolling out full production in 08,
i rather the original...

sidenote attack! the original time machine in back to the future was planned to be a fridge, no messing, actually a fridge that travelled throught time, thankfully at the last minute robert zemekis saw the advertising campaign for delorean and decided it would be a better idea, i agree with him, who honestly wants to watch a film where a fridge travells through time

also the delorean had the vpr engine (volvo peugeot renault joint project) which was originally an 8 cylender but at the last minute was butchered to be a 6 cylender hence the wierd shape of it

MGrah

Ceb wrote: »

sidenote attack! the original time machine in back to the future was planned to be a fridge, no messing, actually a fridge that travelled throught time, thankfully at the last minute robert zemekis saw the advertising campaign for delorean and decided it would be a better idea, i agree with him, who honestly wants to watch a film where a fridge travells through time

Wow! - talk about dodging a bullet. I genuinely thing that BTTF wouldn't have been anywhere near as iconic a movie as it was if the DL had been replaced by a fridge. Imagine a world with no Marty McFly or Doc Brown - it doesn't bear thinking about!

Ceb

also imagine they used the fridge, kids everywhere would have got into their fridges thinking they could time travel only to find out that their time was now more limited than ever

L1011

Mathew Reilly wrote: »

plus the car couldn't get past 88mph.
Top speed was 87.
0-60 in 14.1 secs.
The DeLorean is a prime example of what marketing can do for a crap product.
Whoever the genius that came up with getting this car into the Back to the Future movies deserved a massive payrise

US spec car had a speedo to 85 and could easily run off the end
EU spec car had a speedo to 140 and could get to 120ish. Same engine, same emissions gubbins, just the US law required speedos to top at 85 at the time as an anti boy-racer tactic. Take off the emissions pipework (and fail an NCT ) and it goes significantly faster.

DMC was bankrupt and gone well before BTTF came out. :rolleyes:

Ceb

i think we can all agree though it wasnt a very good car, it'll always be remembered for all the unimportant reasons and its hardly surprising dmc went bust, id still love to own one though

TychoCaine

Ceb wrote: »

imagine seeing one of these beasts! according to somewhere or other delorean has confirmed these rolling out full production in 08,
i rather the original...

sidenote attack! the original time machine in back to the future was planned to be a fridge, no messing, actually a fridge that travelled throught time, thankfully at the last minute robert zemekis saw the advertising campaign for delorean and decided it would be a better idea, i agree with him, who honestly wants to watch a film where a fridge travells through time

also the delorean had the vpr engine (volvo peugeot renault joint project) which was originally an 8 cylender but at the last minute was butchered to be a 6 cylender hence the wierd shape of it

You're a bit off there. A company in Texas is sitting on a warehouse full of parts which they bought when DeLorean went bust. They have everything they need to build complete cars, so they'll be building the same car that was built in Belfast, with a few minor updates to make it suitable for modern driving (I hope).

The V6 was always a V6. It's the same engine block as the one used in Alpine sports cars at the time, and posh Citroen Xantias up until thay were replaced by the C5.

Ceb

the old delorean is still being built, you can order one online from their official website starting at 57k dollars, that pic i posted was the original concept for the new range, no longer the same company (nor have i heard anything about the new one in about a year) making them but last i heard the name has been bought (by some guy in heuston i think) with the intention of releasing an entirely new range and more of the old ones, wouldnt really be the same i think

Max_Damage

MYOB wrote: »

Take off the emissions pipework (and fail an NCT )

Not necessarily, cars that are pre-'94 I (think) don't need cats to be fitted for the NCT, and the emissions rules for a car that old (1981 thereabouts), would be quite lenient.

Plus, come 2010, 2011, & 2012, most of the DeLoreans will be 30 years old, so no NCT for them if they are under classic car tax & insurance.