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Site justification

  • 18-08-2007 7:56am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7


    Hi all,

    This is our second attempt at planning permission. Our first attempt was refused on the basis that it was too close to a canal. Now we have compromised by moving back about 600m. A road now passes between our new site and the old site.

    From speaking to the planners they are happy with our compromised location. They have asked us to complete a written submission for the site justification. This is where I might need a bit of help. My father has a reasonably sized farm and I don’t want the planners getting his landholdings and picking out a site for us:eek:

    I have thought of 1 or 2 justifications such as ‘the site has no impact on the workings of my father’s farm’ etc.

    Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    I'm assuming that you are getting the site from your father. When you make the planning application, his overall land holding will have to be outlined in blue on the OS map.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭ircoha


    with most CC's now online u should pick out some other planning decisions from the CC u are applying to and go read the files and see what they said.

    I dont believe the planners will pick a site for u, that is beyond their brief.

    also get onto ur local councilers/TD,s, unless u are in Shannon they will have time to help


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    smashey wrote:
    I'm assuming that you are getting the site from your father. When you make the planning application, his overall land holding will have to be outlined in blue on the OS map.

    Not if the lands have been transfered to the son.

    OP why have you moved it 600m from the canal? Alot of county councils only require an offset of 10-20 from any strcutre to the water course


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    kearnsr wrote:
    Not if the lands have been transfered to the son.

    Try telling Donegal Co.Council that. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,555 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    smashey wrote:
    Try telling Donegal Co.Council that. ;)
    I think what kearnsr meant was if the site was legally transferred to the OP then that would be the only land he would own and hence would only have to outline the site in blue.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    muffler wrote:
    I think what kearnsr meant was if the site was legally transferred to the OP then that would be the only land he would own and hence would only have to outline the site in blue.

    Yeah thats what I meant.

    Also if the lands are still under control of the father isnt the planning application meant to be in his name?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    The son can apply in his name but needs a letter of consent from his father (overall land owner). His father's name and address will also appear on the application form.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    smashey wrote:
    The son can apply in his name but needs a letter of consent from his father (overall land owner). His father's name and address will also appear on the application form.

    Isnt that in the case if the son is acting as the fathers agent? Like the way an egnineering company would make the application? The son doesnt appear to be acting as the agent. Just wondering does that cause problems?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    Anybody can make an application for any piece of land they don't own provided they have the consent of the overall land owner. On the application the applicant's interest in the land referring to the application would usually be expressed as "intends to purchase". I'm a bit cofused about the agent comment. The agent in this case is usually the person who prepares the plans ie the architect/technician/engineer.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    smashey wrote:
    Anybody can make an application for any piece of land they don't own provided they have the consent of the overall land owner. On the application the applicant's interest in the land referring to the application would usually be expressed as "intends to purchase". I'm a bit cofused about the agent comment. The agent in this case is usually the person who prepares the plans ie the architect/technician/engineer.

    I was of the understanding the the owner could ask an agent to do the applicantion but that any decsion to grant would be for the owner. If lands were to transfer to some one else the decsion to grant would also be transfered.

    I was wondering was the son acting as the agent or as the "owner" of the land.

    But yeah the agent is usally the person who prepares the plans ie the architect/technician/engineer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    Good points.
    Any grant would be to the person named in the application ie. the person looking to purchase.


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